Putin literally asked for Russia to join NATO, more than once, and was rejected
The unpleasant reality is, Russians, like the Chinese, have never, in all their long history, existed without authoritarian rule. Their people are culturally inured to it. They actively seek it. They’re broken, as a society, and only dissolving their society will cure them.
The libs are not ok.
“They have the authoritarian bone in their skulls, they thrive under the whip, those despotic asiatic hordes”
“Don’t worry sweaty, I hate the government, not the people”
The unpleasant reality is
Russians, like the ChineseAmericans have never, in all their long history, existed without authoritarian rule. They are culturally inured to it. They actively seek it. They’re broken, as a society, and only dissolving their society will cure them.After 9 Thermidor II, they never were again.
You could’ve joined the west as an equal partner.
…Hey, remember Yeltsin?
In the seconds after this meme, Walter(Russia) proceeds to shoot and kill Mike(NATO).
I don’t think the Libs thought this one through…
Also the Soviet Union was overjoyed at the thought of a Post-War continuation of the Allies, and because the fact that the entire West German leadership were Nazi’s, they readily applied for NATO membership, in fact they were one of the first countries to do so. They thought they could avoid hostilities with the US, and prevent an arms race or possible WW3. When they were rejected, they somberly realized what was going on and quickly organized the Warsaw Pact.
The Soviets also offered on two separate occasions to reunify Germany and establish it as a neutral country outside either spheres of influence. This would include the withdrawal of all Soviet, American, French, and British assets and forces. This was soundly rejected.
Actual context in the original scene fits this scenario since Mike is putting the blame on Waltuh while this is what actually happened:
westoids really dooby dooby doo like this
What zero political understanding does to mf’er. Russia only reoriented towards China after its attempts joining the west were brutally rebuffed.
Russia really did join China as a last resort.
Likely didn’t want the risk of Russians looking too closely at China and triggering too many fond memories. China owes the people in ex-Soviet countries for the leg up. It was never a perfect relationship and things went sour before it could blossom. But the Soviets did help the Chinese and we’re far enough in the future that mistakes can be overlooked in favour of focusing on the sentiment.
And now? Russian capitalists will try to avoid it. But one option is a relatively peaceful transition back to socialism for Russia. The longer Russia gets closer to China, the more likely this becomes as Russians see that (a) it’s needed for self preservation and (b) the Chinese have resolved many of the problems that weakened the USSR. Meaning it’s both necessary and viable. Due to the CPC’s historic debt and the general internationalism of socialists, it probably won’t be unhappy to facilitate any movement towards socialism in Russia.
If these are the conditions that lead to the Russian Federation going socialist, I welcome it. Not like my opinion matters.
LMAO I love how the new cope is going to be that Russia is being colonized by China. It’s a pretty funny mask off moment since it’s rooted in racism and the idea that Russia should obviously prefer to bend over for the western world order. It’s also pure projection since westies can’t even conceive of two countries having a mutually beneficial relationship where nobody gets exploited.
This last bit comes up in way too many of my conversations. Even ostensibly anti-imperialist decolonial types will throw in the idea that China is can only be acting in Africa because they are benefitting from it, so it isn’t a positive development. Even the fact that African partners are getting genuinely important things out of these arrangements doesn’t make the material difference between Chinese diplomacy and imperial extraction clear.
Wow. Unfunny and racist.
Little a homophobia too
The latter implies the former
This meme only works if you assume that the west is benevolent and their “support” helps other nations, and that Russia never actively engaged with them diplomatically, and that China has some secret plan to control Russia or something.
I guess when you’re a lib, your head is stuck so far up your own ass that you can’t actually see the world for what it is so a meme like this would make sense to them.
Obviously 3 layers of interdependent conspiracy theories > reality
No they couldn;t have joined as an equal partner
For real! Hell, they even openly tried to fucking join NATO at one point. They tried going capitalist as fuck really fast to get the west to back the fuck off of the whole “most evil nation that is always trying to end the world because communism”. But it wasn’t going to ever matter and were still always painted as being a KGB police dictatorship, even though the west was treating other nations with much more literal versions of that shit as being our best friends in “freedom”. NATO existing after the USSR and now even expanding to literally non-North Atlantic regions at this point should be so fucking obvious to it being anything other than a mob. Everything “aggressive” being done by Russia is the result of NATO members (especially the US and UK but not limited to them) never having any plans to let Russia be treated as equal.
And the idea that China is basically pulling an op on making Russia bow to them is beyond some of the dumbest lib (both conservative and progressive)/reactionary shit. They were both being treated in every bad-faith ways possible and constantly being loudly pushed as being “evil” no matter what. Both are treated as trying to push the world into another war anytime they do big military training exercises (both joint and just within their branches internally). While the US and NATO are constantly rolling up on their borders and making sure to do similar or larger exercises and always seen as somehow not aggressive/pushing for war.
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“joined the west as an equal partner”
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Shock therapy, isolation, and NATO expansion
Can’t have both, libs, and your masters picked the latter. Now you cheerlead the people who dupe you.
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