Bluesky, the Jack Dorsey-backed Twitter alternative, is getting its first third-party app for both iOS and Android users: a new app called Graysky.
Its called Greysky and its default is light mode?
And the picture they used is not just white background, but the icons and edit text are blue and text is black. Where is the grey? I call false advertisement.
My dumb ass thought this would be a weather client replacing DarkSky
Shadow Weather is probably as close as you’re doing to get there, I think.
I prefer Weather today as it has apple Weather Kit and it’s android native, not flutter
@independantiste @ArghZombies I honestly don’t care what it is as long as it follows material design 3 and has material you support.
Merrysky but I wish they’d make an app.
It technically can be if subscribing to a weather outlet…
i really like breezy weather, it looks great and is open source
This would be great if everyone wasn’t waiting months for an invite
Got an invite code yesterday and i couldn’t stay more than 5 minutes is as i didn’t any content that interests me
What interests you? Did you search the feeds?
Exactly. It’s still invite only, so bluesky really feels like a bit of a non-starter.
I’ve been against bluesky since I heard they’re invite only. It just won’t work, maybe future proves me wrong (as it usually does) but I just cannot physically believe in it.
There’s way better and bigger alternatives already (Mastodon, hello?). Mastodon’s federated as well. Everything I’ve known so far that was invite only really didn’t go far.
But I don’t know anything else about bluesky other than it’s a Twitter alternative and invite-only currently, so tell me if I’m wrong? (Obligatory :3)
I’ve used both fedi and Bluesky so I might be able to chime in, here. I have both my praises and my concerns for both fedi and Bluesky but I’ll probably post that elsewhere.
Bluesky is an implementation of a separate federated protocol called Atproto. It was initially designed for Twitter but after Elon’s acquisition it has spun off into its own public benefit LLC, with the creator of XMPP in the board of directors as well as former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey. I don’t know if Jack is still on it though after he got bullied off for being a crypto-bro but it doesn’t matter, the code is open-source and you can spin up your own server.
The “invite-only” part of Bluesky is Bsky.social, the flagship server instance for Atproto, but there are servers being spun up waiting for federation and in the future, bsky.social will be open to the public. AFAICT they want to get the federation right before deploying it to bsky.social, rather than just winging it and having federation break. There is a federation sandbox for developers to help get the federation just right before rolling it to production. They have considered ActivityPub, which powers the fediverse, but they wanted account portability which neither ActivityPub nor the software that powers the fediverse were intended to do. Follower migration is a thing on fedi but not post migration, and they want to solve that problem.
For me, Bluesky is much busier than fedi. Furry artists are popping off a lot more on Bluesky lately. One thing people tend to ignore is human behaviour. Most people want a place where they can chat to their friends, that’s why Discord is strong to this day even though XMPP exists. Truth be told, only tech nerds care about federation, most other people just see it as unneeded complication. Add to the air of elitism that’s in this very post (not from you, fyi) and which is across the fediverse, and yeah. I can absolutely understand why some people are choosing Bluesky right now over fedi.
I just never got the appeal before, knowing what I knew. And I never cared to acquire more knowledge about Bluesky because I was perfectly happy with Kbin and Mastodon etc…
Now I know a little more about it and what you said makes sense to me. My mind will remain unchanged though until they leave the invite-only era. I may give it a try then and see. Pre-edit: I’ve actually joined the waitlist now because why not.
It’s worth a shot at the very least. If it’s not for you, not a problem. I know people who prefer their own self-hosted Pleroma instance to Bluesky, as well as people who prefer the culture and ecosystem of Bluesky right now to fedi. Hope I cleared some things up at least :p
Yeah, until it fully launches to everyone, it won’t be a viable alternative to anything.
Wow do they still have a single server only?? Where is the federation???
Bsky.social isn’t federated yet, but they do have a federation sandbox for developers. I don’t think they want to put federation into the production server just yet.
IIRC there’s also servers waiting for federation, I’ve heard there’s a Russian Atproto server.
From the article ‘Rather, explains Newman, Bluesky was appealing because it’s simply a better Twitter.’
Can someone explain this to me? The article does not. It all seems like garbage to me, vanilla swirl maybe instead of straight vanilla, but still tastes like crap. This release is specifically not decentralized.
Dorsey is a shitbag, always has been, why is this better?
It’s still big tech
The protocol (AT Protocol) is what’s decentralised, which is separate(ish) to BlueSky the social network.
are there any other instances using AT protocol?
A fair few, but as it’s still being developed there’s not many stable uses. You can check some of them out here:
At least for normal non-tech oriented people it is a Twitter without Elon Musk. Which I suppose is an improvement despite it still being Jack Dorsey.
I think it will be important to see how it is potentially monetized. If they can find some way to stay alive without going down the enshitification rabbit hole with ads and prioritized posts with paid subscriptions like Twitter then that would also be an improvement in my opinion.
Is their federation still vapourware?
va·por·ware
software or hardware that has been advertised but is not yet available to buy, either because it is only a concept or because it is still being written or designed.
So, yes
It appears that there will be no ads and the only monetization is for advanced features. Assuming that actually is true that is a respectable way to monetize something.
Thanks to centralization that can change at any moment and people can’t do anything about it. We learned that from Twitter and Reddit and others.
At least personally I can just leave. It’s interesting that so many people get so entrenched in a service that they can’t go without it.
Well I wish it runs better than the official app because that is atrocious compared to the mastodon or even the twitter app.
The latest Mastodon app is great.
Which Mastadon app? I’ve seen a couple. The official one? I also heard Tusky was good.
I don’t know why they made it difficult for people to create custom feeds
My main gripe with it is that it seems to be just another React Native app just like the main app. So it doesn’t really seem that much better.
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