• therealrjp@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    All the talk of Starmer not having personality or leadership seemed to skim over me for the longest time and I thought he was the right man for the job. I liked the way he interviewed and I thought his career of ‘fighting the good fight’ made him just what we needed.

    I’m not sure anymore. His handling of important topics recently has been lacklustre to say the least and, although I don’t really like the term, I’m seeing him as a ‘red Tory’ more and more.

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      I’m a foreigner but the second I laid eyes on him I said he’s a tory plant. Something is so off about him, and his father who used his hands

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    What’s stopping Cobbo from creating a new Labour party (kek) and running for what he believes in? From the sounds of it he’ll have tonnes of support from Labour voters that don’t like Starmer.

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        True. FPTP is utter trash, but look what UKIP did under that system to push their agenda. They only won one, maybe two, seats. Corbyn could force Starmer’s hand in the same way Farrage did. Why is that not a possibility?

        If we need radical left thinking back in our politics why have they effectively given up?

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          Maybe it doesn’t have quite the support that the vocal group believes it does?

          Those at the top know this and would rather play in the Labour playground where they get noticed rather than languish in obscurity if they split off.

          UKIP had support on both sides of the fence, not just Tories, and had a strong narrative that they’ve been working on. Corbyn Labour does not.

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            Maybe it doesn’t have quite the support that the vocal group believes it does?

            I believe they have… momentum on their side 😎.

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              Ba dum cha!

              Maybe they do, I don’t know, perhaps it’s not that they fear that they would languish but find it easier to do what they do because they can concentrate on their core message?

              Either way, as a remainer, I don’t believe that it’s the same as UKIP as they were taking votes from both Labour and Conservatives, but for different reasons. The Tories managed to grab Labour voters by pandering to that crowd.

              Corbyn Labour hasn’t position itself as being a cross party concern so there is no benefit on being outside the party.

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          You’re talking about it as if that’s a sign of a healthy democracy. FPTP is a scourge. Every country that uses it is falling apart in wild swings between left and right.

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    It is a turn up for the books when Starmer pulls out the Corbyn card to get out of a crisis.

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        To be fair, Corbyn has made himself look a right stupid wanker these last few weeks. He’s the gift that keeps on giving, and constantly proves why Starmer will probably win a dirty landslide

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          He’s not exactly the devil and not exactly the perfect angelic vision that each side makes him out to be.

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            I like his national, social policies. I don’t like his foreign policy.

            Despite it affecting far less of the country, his foreign policy is what got him lambasted in the media.

  • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    imagine hating a man like jeremy corbyn who wants to stop people from dying from bombs.

    what is starmer going to do once he’s in power and the tories and the media that he courted to put him in power go back to the tories now that they’re not in power and he has no more of the party left because he chased off the entire left flank?