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    6 months ago

    What is the difference to Elisa really?

    I used Elisa and found it quite unusable for folder-structured music.

    I only used folder structures as I found no say so sync .m3u playlists including the music files between Android and Linux. Finding a way here would be great.

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    Man Amarok was amazing back in the day, but that was many days ago.

    It still might be good, and kudos for the effort, but Clementine has already surpassed Amarok. It would be nice to the effort going to either Continue clementine development, or make Strawberry as feature complete as Clementine and go on from there.

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      I tried Clementine for a while, but I didn’t like how careless the developers were with privacy and security. For example, quietly downloading and executing a Spotify blob (even when I don’t use Spotify), and sending pings to a geolocation service without my permission.

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        That is interesting. Now I am going to have to run Wireshark and see if anything is going on with mine.

        Shame if so, it is the most feature rich music player.

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          You might also check to see if it has already downloaded any .so files. (These are executable code, like Windows DLLs.) I found one in $HOME/.config/Clementine/spotifyblob/ when I used it a few years ago, but recent versions may store them elsewhere or do it conditionally.

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            6 months ago

            I looked and I do not see anything like that. Who packaged your version I wonder.

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              The blob wasn’t packaged with the application. Clementine downloaded the blob after installation. It’s possible that it doesn’t do this automatically any more, or does it under different conditions. I have no reason to investigate further, since I no longer use it.

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                6 months ago

                I have the same home directory for 20+ years and have been running Clementine since it was released on Fedora. I have no blobs or .so files.

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                6 months ago

                Cool. I guess I was wondering if the package maintainer had set a configuration to pull those in automatically, or if Clementine was designed to do that. But in any case, thanks for the reply.

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            6 months ago

            I have no spotifyblob directory in my ~/.config/Clementine. Just Clementine.conf, clementine.db, jamendo.db and an albumcovers directory

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    I’m pretty happy with Cantata for now, but if it ever fails me, it’s nice to know Amarok might be a decent alternative.

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      6 months ago

      I’ve been using Clementine ever since Amarok shit the bed way back when. Actually there may have been a gap before Clementine was released because I remember trying a few other players that I didn’t like so much.

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      Yeah those glossy buttons etc don’t fit in with the flat breeze theme at all. Looks like an unholy child of windows Vista and KDE 5

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        It’s not the theme, it’s that it has 5 panels visible with vague hirerarchy. Music players shouldn’t look like IDEs

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          afaik they’re all dock widgets, meaning they can all be hidden, moved and resized at will. you can even split them off into their own windows if you want

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      And there was already a style change 😅

      I’d really like to know where Kde is heading style wise (I’m a regular donor)

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        One of my biggest gripes about Linux in general is that none of the DEs can settle on a UI kit. I get WHY, but ffs, this is a major set back for various apps.

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          Amarok uses Qt, just like every other KDE project. Likewise, I don’t think GNOME has any project not using GTK.

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              @const_void@lemmy.ml UI kit doesn’t necessarily mean good/bad design

              @kde@lemmy.kde.social @kde@floss.social @tsonfeir@lemmy.world @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml @leopold@lemmy.kde.social

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              What, the grey bars? Crappy is a rude way of putting it, but yes they look pretty bad. I think that’s probably an artifact from the Qt4 days. It looked fine with Oxygen. Rest looks fine to me. If you think it looks busy, well the screenshot has a lot of panels enabled, just to showcase the features. IIRC many of them are not shown by default and a user would only keep the ones they need, since the interface is customizable.

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                I’m not trying to be “rude.” But the line height, weird font sizes, spacing between elements. Just everything about it screams function over form. There is a way to have both. Most software that adheres to modern design principles have overcome the “janky” UI

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                  @tsonfeir @leopold I think they’re more focused on fixing build errors and putting out a release for now, and leave UI updates for later. So we’re stuck with the old look for this release.

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    @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social

    Trying it out today, I had a flashback that reminded why I loved this player so much: when I pressed the “pause” button, instead of immediately cutting off, the track gradually faded into silence.

    It was not the smorgasbord of features, but the small things like this that set Amarok head and shoulders above all other players. Can’t wait to see it brought up to speed again.

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    I always understood it was a powerful audio player but, I could never figure it out. Rhythmbox just works and gets out of the way 🤷‍♂️

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    It’s cool. But the music player landscape has changed so much, I just don’t need library features and what not anymore. I find myself just queueing things in MPV using a terminal in a directory full of music, launching playlists and stuff. I’ve tried a ton of music players for Linux, from Amarok to Cmus, and I find that it’s all cruft and all you need is a media player and at best a file manager.