• Xeelee@kbin.social
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    I really hope mainline Mint goes full Debian soon. Ubuntu is just an embarrassment at this point.

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    Wait is this true? They can’t be replacing apt with snaps all the way… I’ve been using Ubuntu for a decade plus and this would force me to switch

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        Thanks for the link. Read the article and it’s just them kicking debs out of the App Store I don’t use anyways. Still a terrible trajectory…

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        Debian also got a lot quicker with updates. They are not as “oldschool” as they’ve been a few years ago with the packages being always years behind. They still have the Debian way of thinking (tested > on the edge) but it’s months and not years of waiting for new updates to be implemented in their official sources

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        They’re not.

        Please read the news before spreading misinformation.

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          Ubuntu’s Director of Engineering says the new hub will be a “snap-first app store” designed around snap metadata. If the same piece of software exists in the Ubuntu repository and the snap store the new store will only make it possible to install the snap version.

          https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/07/ubuntu-23-10-new-app-store-deb-support

          Their plan is to put out more snaps and drown out debs, which is a terrible plan.

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            Even your link says they’re NOT replacing the apt command with snaps. And yet above you said they were.

            The snaps-only thing is in the store.

            So I say again: they’re NOT turning apt into a snap-only thing. Please read news carefully before spreading fake news.

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                Still doesn’t mean every apt package is becoming a snap. Firefox is more of an “exception that proves the rule”.

                And since you’re so desperately grasping at straws here, I won’t keep feeding this conversation.

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      Slow startup time, doesn’t honour system themes and big download sizes come to my mind.

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      snap backend is proprietary and controlled by canonical also people don’t like the slow start up times

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      There are better solutions for everything it does/tries to do:

      • Flatpak for desktop applications
      • docker/podman/LXC/… for server software
      • apt/dnf/pacman/… for system utilities
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      It automatically updates the software you’ve installed, and there’s no way to turn that off. That’s why I personally hate it.

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    If I’m not mistaken, it’s only on the GUI app store, you will still be able to launch a terminal and install deb from the CLI using apt. I could be wrong as I’ve read different things from different sources.

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      If you install Firefox from cli without adding and pinning the debian source, it will default to snap.

      Yes, Ubuntu is insisting on shitting everything.