Pff wat een gedoe. Inderdaad niet chique om hier op TV over te gaan praten. Als je echt zoveel clubliefde hebt dan zou je het wel binnenskamers willen houden.

Matig begin van het seizoen en wat een raar verhaal met van Polen. Wat is daar precies gebeurt? Aan wiens kant staan de fans?

Not American so perhaps I’m missing something, but doesn’t it make sense tips are taxed? It’s income, so why wouldn’t it be?

Wat een gekke avond. Gelukkig loopt het voor Ajax goed af maar echt totaal aan jezelf te danken dat het zover komt.

Pasveer een held. Brobbey moet geen penalty’s meer nemen.

The one in the middle has its eye open

I just gave an example of running where it was about pushing, not if someone crossed a line. They even changed their decision after an appeal when other people looked at the same situation again.

And sports like football or hockey… Have you ever watched those sports? There are subjective calls all the time. It’s objective criteria, but a human still has to interpret things like handball, which depends on if your arm is in an “unnatural position” or not. Those are largely subjective decisions and there is controversy around them all the time.

With breakdancing they are of course also judging specific criteria:

The winner is determined by a panel of judges, who score each performance based on five criteria each worth a fifth of the point maximum

It’s really not that different.

Running has judges. Just the other day in the women’s 1500m (I think) a woman was initially disqualified for pushing someone. She appealed and the decision was reversed. It’s all about interpretation and subjectivity.

I can’t think of any sport that doesn’t have a judge or referee that has to subjectively interpret athlete’s actions and the sport’s rules.

If you prefer the hockey shootout over penalties in football, better get a time machine (and an airplane perhaps) and go watch the MLS in the 90s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNExAtWu0CU

100% agree. I’m Dutch and he’s sent there to represent me/us/the country, it’s fucking disgusting.

I totally agree with you and fuck this guy, but there is some context to his sentence here in the Netherlands:

One legal distinction is that Van de Velde is unlikely to have been convicted of rape had he stood trial in the Netherlands rather than England. In England, sex with a 12-year-old is rape, regardless of the circumstances: an under-16 cannot legally consent. But after he was extradited to the Netherlands, having serving almost a year of his prison sentence, he was released after less than a month. Under Dutch law, his crime was deemed to be the lesser offence of ontucht, sexual acts that violate social-ethical norms.

From https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/30/netherlands-child-rapist-olympics-steven-van-de-velde

Very cool!

Has anyone tried this yet?

And was wondering where this would work, is there a list of places that are supported?

Where I’m from a 36 hour work week is the norm. I work 4 × 9 hours and have every Wednesday off (plus I have like 9 weeks off every year). Some colleagues do work 40 hours a week and then save a day off every two weeks. A friend does this and he takes one fairly long holiday (like a month) and also a week or two off every two months or something.

And you can also take a sabbatical and be guaranteed of your job when you get back. A guy I know from another department took a year off to take a trip around the world with his girlfriend.

Wait so you can get married under the age of consent? That seems completely illogical… if you can’t consent to sex surely you can’t consent to marriage?

Just to be very clear I’m not defending him in the slightest, this whole thing is horrible and I agree he raped her.

I was just explaining the situation and the differences in law in England and the Netherlands.

While I agree that this crime should definitely fall within the definition and corresponding punishment of rape, I don’t agree that no 15 year old can ever consent to sex.

I’m not sure what the law ought to be though. I personally think a 16 year old should be legally able to have sex with their 15 year old partner. Maybe in england the difference in age matters. But if not, and a 15 year old legally cannot consent, is this hypothetical 16 year old now a rapist? That doesn’t sound right to me.

A 19 year old having sex with a 12 year old? That is clearly wrong and that’s rightfully already illegal here. But it’s not automatically rape because Dutch law does recognize consent from people under 16. I have no idea at what age people can give consent though. I’m not sure if there is a minimum. But if the 12 year old in this situation did not consent then it would obviously be rape, just to make that clear.

A question: what is the situation in other countries with high schoolers having sex? It must happen all the time that some 18 year old is dating a 15 year old and that they have sex. I think the overwhelming majority of Dutch people would not want that to be illegal, let alone considered rape.

Yeah the search is not forgiving. One typo is enough to ruin the search results.

How well an area is mapped also matters a lot for search though. I now live somewhere that has all addresses in the country mapped from a government source. I didn’t before, and it’s so much easier now because at least I can just punch in the address and I’ll find whatever I’m looking for.

Not saying it’s right, but for context:

One legal distinction is that Van de Velde is unlikely to have been convicted of rape had he stood trial in the Netherlands rather than England. In England, sex with a 12-year-old is rape, regardless of the circumstances: an under-16 cannot legally consent. But after he was extradited to the Netherlands, having serving almost a year of his prison sentence, he was released after less than a month. Under Dutch law, his crime was deemed to be the lesser offence of ontucht, sexual acts that violate social-ethical norms.

From https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/jul/30/netherlands-child-rapist-olympics-steven-van-de-velde

Is that really true? That is amazing. What episode / season is this?

Absolutely, long-term it’s a fantastic investment. Hopefully the government stays committed and keeps funding its education in order to raise the quality. Getting so many more kids going to school is a great step in that process.

That face… smirking like it’s better than us. Beautiful bastard.