tomatosametomato

I’m sorry I don’t have a list to add to the conversation but one of your points made me curious:

What do you mean by “Made for adults: deep gameplay, challenge, real progression (any genre welcome — strategy, roguelike, RPG, racing, puzzle…)”?

As far as I’m concerned, real adult “games” don’t have progression: Basketball, football, baseball (do you count muscle growth?), chess (ELO is progression? one value?), backgammon (ELO I guess?).

What do you see as “real (adult) progression”?

edited (to make my misunderstanding bold)

It’s a great game for coop! Base game NPCs are well written (even though they are cliches by now, they were original at inception though!) so non-gamers have something to hook onto if they fail the mechanical demands (mostly the fishing minigame tbh, battle is knockback based = easy)

But, if you are going to play with a non-gamer you have to download some mods (time stops if both players are in a state which would stop time in singleplayer, and time stops in the house) because without the mods, it was one of the most stressful games we played together.

Days are short if time is passing when you are in a fishing minigame who knew?

Did you punish those people for lying? Or did the society (and their laws) decide that it was an ok thing to do?

People who write this dictionary should listen to the public more maybe. Lame doesn’t mean what you wrote for at least 25 years.

I capitalized LEGAL in my comment because if it’s legal, it’s legal (I’m not condoning it since slavery was legal once).

Culture wants profits. You are a sucker if you don’t it. You are evil if you do it. I have a problem with this spreading culture and its laws about work. I’m from a developing country (not residing there though) and all the “free help, sharing is caring etc” stuff is gone now. It’s all money.

Are we living in the same reality where we (society) teach 18 years old students how to distill people into numbers so you can apply data science to it (i.e. business school)? It’s paid by public tax, completely seen as prestigious? Culture demands returns!

I feel like the law is the problem if a system allows for the exploitation of the desperation of migrants and remove any of their worker protections to make this possible.

People are trying to maximize currency because this is how we measure success nowadays (the same metric which says Pablo Escober nr1, good job.) What’s should a small business owner do? Not hire the cheapest LEGAL avaible worker?

Or are we blaming the “bosses” who has enough money to lobby only? Or are we blaming the system (too abstract to act on)?

so initially it was just couchsurfing/hospitality but worse (no culture sharing aspect + it costs money)?

Damn, after reading your comment I thought airBnB came after the enshittification of couch surfing but no, they co-existed and society chose the one with money instead of culture sharing + local volunteer vetting + free accomodation.

We suck :p

I feel like you are cutting society too much slack.

Yes, capitalists set the tone, but people in our immediate surroundings (neighbors, parents, schools) are the ones who enforce the rules.

20 years ago: You got an email? Well… you’ll see it when you open your personal/work computer.

Now: You got an email? Don’t you have a mobile phone? Every second you miss is an insult, especially if they saw you with your phone in your hand once while talking to them (you look at your phone AAAALLL THE TIME no???)

What I understood: Whenever we get a new tech, it makes our life easier (fact) but then the society expects more from us because “hey! now your life is easier, you have the time no?”.

edit: I had more to say I apparently.

in the scope of washbasin:
Women used to do back breaking job for 2 hours while talking to their neighbors and friends by a river/well.

Now they don’t have to do back breaking job, instead they have to do comfortable but soul crushing jobs with co-workers they cannot naturally (professionalism) mingle with.

What is normal. Where is it defined? Is it some decibell? Is it ok if I’m slightly louder than the car engines so I can hear my voice?

(in reality I hate loud people in trains so these are all theoretical but I’m interested in who draws what line on the sand.)

We don’t do karma here. That person spent some of their time to inform us, which means they want more people to see it. I don’t think you’ll duplicating their work, rather you’ll be relaying it.

How often can I probe it? If I can establish you are over 15 but under 17… I know you are 16 (squeeze theorem or something)

I mean it’s missing. “We are our brains + long range signalling molecule emitting organs” is better but it doesn’t roll off your tongue does it?

I am hangry when I’m hungry which means my stomach is a part of my personality (my responses to stimuli), not just my brain. Disregarding endocrine system is not scientifically honest.

Cancer (unwanted tissue) can change your personality (cancer is at the wrong place and actually changing brain signals or simply due to constant pain) and we remove them. Likewise, removing unwanted gonads can improve someone’s well-being (it was causing constant misery = personality change).

I get “angry” (I don’t know, some emotion forces me to take action) when there is a hair in my field of view.

I’m guessing if vision is so important for modeling the world that they’d die without it, they’d do something about it (bind / cut / burn)?

That’s literally true though? If it’s hard to see, take it to the extreme: If you were the only person in a place, you’d be the most important one by default?

They wouldn’t do a good job, but they’d have the job since, you know, there is less competition.

I did work and travel in USA, and they were paying us peanuts due to some law shenanigans (they had to pay overtime for Americans, not us.) Wouldn’t they have to hire a native instead of me if I wasn’t allowed to work there?

I have infinite personalized music at home. It’s my guitar.

Then the joke is good (in a different way) no?

It makes you think that maybe we don’t need “passionate” sex scenes in movies if implied sex would do it (naked people fade to black) if that’s your stance.

It makes you think “wow some actors/actresses must be very good at their craft” if they don’t let you notice the disgust they are feeling even though if you think about it not everyone is attracted to everyone else, if that’s your stance.

Good one, idk?

Pong source code is available in many languages. You could have also made it in a second if you copied someone else’s work.

Now seriously: I make games for myself for 8 years now. It’s really really easy if you don’t have to please someone else. They are fun too (for my use case: 1 or 2 thumb controlled bullet hell games for long train rides)

However actual video games are hard to make. Can you make music/sound effects? Otherwise you have to pay for it. Can you make sprites/3D models? Otherwise you have to pay for it. There is balance (data science or you gotta pay for it), there is accessibility (you don’t wanna trigger someone’s epilepsy / can they play your game if they are missing a thumb?) Do you want a story (pls don’t), can you write it(pls pay for it if I have to suffer through a cutscene)?

if you believe sum of all the costs would be smaller than the earnings, go for it. Otherwise it’s a very fun hobby like painting or playing the guitar.

I like this video if you have 52/(youtube speed factor you can handle) minutes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmwbYl6f11c

Let’s pump more CO2 to the air so the next ice age comes faster as a response overheating so we suffer the calamity instead of our grandchildren!!

You are here playing 4D chess when they are playing 5+1D (I’m not there at all, just watching and getting side fucked by the crumbling world morality)

Once a fish, always a fish. Modern cladistics is weird like that. Unironically, humans are fish 🐟