• rootOP
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    3 days ago

    you can either believe they believed the earth was flat, or they looked at a map and used a metaphor

    and verses?

    and most of the rules that are there in the old testament are for the preparation of the Messiah, which dont apply to us anymore

    and some of it is actually teaching the Israelites to not use contaminated vessels or pots

    we can go back to the original hebrew/greek if youd like

    • hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      3 days ago

      I mean I don’t see many clues for it being a metaphor or parable. They’re clearly referencing something rectangular, on multiple occasions.

      Sadly I’m not familiar with old languages. I had English and French in school, as second languages. No Latin, Greek or Hebrew.

      Yeah, I sometimes wonder why people still read the Old Testament. Sometimes I’ll see people call themselves Christians and reference that old stuff. Like eye for an eye, no blood transfusions, or they’ll hate on LGBT+ people and reference some outdated verses superseded by Jesus and the new covenant 2000 years ago…

      • rootOP
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        3 days ago

        the old testament isnt overall bad, theres wisdom and a lot of important stuff there, but most of the old testament laws were fulfilled by Jesus

        • hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          3 days ago

          Hmmh. And it kinda changed the entire story. Before, God was full of wrath, punished people left and right, was petty with all kind of detail. And after that he stopped messing with them in a regular basis. And now he’s supposed to love his creation. Plus all that tribal stuff wasn’t super relevant any more when Jesus and the Romans lived. At least not in the same way.

          • rootOP
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            3 days ago

            because sin had a price back then, now Jesus died for us and paid the price, we can repent if we hate our sin but back then, the price was heavy

            • hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              3 days ago

              Yeah, but “sin” is made up. Always has been. We can discuss it within the construct of thought, theology is. But other than that it’s pretty boring concept, I think. It’s a simplistic idea, invented to make people compliant.

              • rootOP
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                3
                ·
                3 days ago

                it is not

                it has drastic affects on the soul, mind, and often the body aswell

                • hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  3 days ago

                  “They” want you to think that. That’s why Christianity also comes with thought crimes and all the nasty stuff we had for most of the time. (And we still have as of today.) Eat the simple truths laid out for you, and don’t activate your brain.

                  In reality, it’s all deeply immoral. Even the New Testament thinks slavery is completely alright. Read all Paul’s super sexist teachings. None of that is moral. And if you get a feeling of an effect on your soul, mind and body from those teachings, they got to you. I mean the effect is real. We call that psychological manipulation. It’s the same thing psychopaths or narcissistic people inflict on others. It’s real. But not a good thing.

                  • rootOP
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    4
                    ·
                    3 days ago

                    thought crimes?

                    and verses?