• deft
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    That just continues to show this post is inflated and not really a good source of information.

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      Extrapolating the data from the first 9 months (aka first 3 quarters) of 2023 to estimate what the last 3 months provided isn’t inflating it? Look at the IMF’s data for the US and UK and what OP’s graph projects.

      If it’s about giving China a handjob why would they inflate the US’s GDP as well?

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        It is absolutely inflated do the math yourself. China does not pass 5.

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          You can’t possibly make that claim without showing your mathematics to disprove it, fam.

          If something rises from 0 to 4.2 in 270 days, how would it not hit at least 5.0 on 365 days?

          You probably think it’s a bunch of bots you’re arguing with but man, you’ll take anti-China articles at face value without ever looking further than a headline but will disregard anything even pro-China as propaganda, I think you might be extremely biased.

          Also while this was happening I found a Reuters article that says also states 5.2% growth in Q4 and it’s a criticism of China that it’s LOWER

          Like at this stage a sane person would just concede right?

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            because that’s not how they do the math lol

            there is a lot more than that. which is why the number you got and that number is wrong.

            Weird right? You put actual thought in and realize that’s not truthful. Interesting huh?

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              Ok, let’s ignore Reuters because they’re probably Chinese shills or the IMF estimating 5.4%, 0.2% higher than the official CCP figure released in Jan because the International Monetary Fund are communist shills as well.

              You’ve already got it set in your mind, no amount of evidence from even western sources will change your mind, I get it.

              But, hypothetically, it was proven to be 5%. Would you go back and question the sources that told you it wasn’t? Or continue to chug along as you are now, taking those sources at face value?

              Chinese journalists who under reported figures 4.8% at the start of Jan found out they were wrong and retracted the articles because it was factually incorrect, western media pounced on it because “Wow China’s censoring journalists that says the economy is bad, therefore the only conclusion is their economy is bad, that’s the conclusion we’re implying here” and then a few days later even Reuters was like “oh yeah it was over 5%” and it’s crickets from the people that implied “China SCRUBS CLEAN ALL EVIDENCE OF BAD ECONOMY” you’ll continue to remember it as the latter for the rest of your life.

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                Sure just read none of the articles I shared lol.

                Also very cute to pretend to be having a regular conversation just to piss your pants a second later. How about this save this post hit me up in a year let’s see if you have the balls to admit you’re wrong.

                Spoiler, you won’t

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                  I’m not one to argue small values, as far as I know this stuff will be better understood in retrospect, in the same way peer-reviewed scientific understanding is, years later.

                  I am curious though, do you think there would be evidence or just data that, for the time being (since, like I said, this stuff is better understood after the fact when enough data is gathered, disseminated, reviewed, etc.) would make you reconsider?

                  If the IMF or the relevant CPC association put out numbers much lower than 5%, I’d consider it plausible and keep it as a provisional value along with the forecasted ones and the current range alleged by different groups. If the Chicago School of Economics or Austrian School (lol, do they do math? jk) published something, I’d have to look at it before dismissing it.

                  So I’m just curious because clearly you put in effort, and I have a hard time understanding the bounds and methodology you use since 1. it’s different from the folks here, and 2. it’s different from contemporary orthodox/heterodox economists.