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I’d buy this in an instant if they would have included a headphone jack. What an idiotic design choice to make especially on a device like this
The Fairphone 3 still had one.
Just to clarify, this is about the 2019 model Fairphone 3, which does have a headphone jack.
Honestly, the headphone jack days are gone and there’s not a lot we can do about it.
And honestly? Wireless Bluetooth headphones/earbuds are good enough now that I don’t see a need for wired ones though so I don’t see what the issue ism
I’m glad that it works for you. Doesn’t work for everyone, unfortunately. There are still a few brands out there that release new phones with the jack. Supporting them demonstrates that there’s still a market out there. I find Bluetooth buds, even the great ones, a frustrating enough experience that I don’t want to rely on ONLY that for music listening.
Same thing with small phones; there aren’t many out there, but I show my support where I can. I may not be the majority but I think the jack is a large enough “niche” that it will absolutely be out there for a long time. In fact I suspect as people get tired of the $200/year (for good bluetooth buds) hamster wheel the jack will actually increase in popularity. But it takes time for all of those bluetooth buds to break down on people, and for people to decide that enough is enough.
Fair enough. I’ve only ever bought one pair of wireless earbuds though that I got around 3-4 years ago so I didn’t realize it was common to have to buy new ones frequently.
I hate the fact that so many manufacturers removed it that I refuse to buy a device like that purely out of principle.
My current device has a user removable battery aswell and seems like EU is going to make it mandatory for new devices so my next device will probably have it too. I can imagine someone saying the same thing about removable battery that you’re now saying about the headphone jack. Time will tell.
I use my headphones on multiple devices. Pairing them every time I want to switch is a pain in the ass. Also, my current headphones are still good and will hopefully last for a very long time, as I specifically went after headphones that are study, easy to maintain, and repair. So I have no need for Bluetooth headphones, and I have no desire for Bluetooth headphones. I just want a jack to plug in.
What headphones are they? Can they not just pair to multiple devices? I have mine hooked up to my two laptops and my phone, and they just automatically connect to whatever one I’m using (unless I’m using both in which case I just have to toggle it on the second device if I want).
Sorry, to be clear, they’re not Bluetooth. I’ve got a set of Meze 99 Neos. I’ve got my desktop, laptop, phone, and Steam Deck that I use them on regularly. I’ve had Bluetooth headphones in the past and I’ve never had one that can pair to 4 things, not to mention trying to get it to connect to the right one when more than one has power is annoying.
These ones are also sturdy, easy to repair, and use a standard 2.5mm to 3.5mm connection. There’s no battery to wear out and no electronics of any kind to fail. So long as I don’t physically break them, I expect them to keep working for many years to come. There’s no wireless headphones I’m aware of and certainly no wireless earbuds that I can say that about. I have no interest in buying devices designed to be consumed and discarded past a certain date.
7 years. Wtf!!!
The company actually skipped Android 12 to deliver Android 13 due to all that “build the BSP yourself” work. Monthly security updates probably don’t arrive all that regularly either.
This might be a dealbreaker for many people.
Yep. 7 years of updates is not worth a lot functionally if the updates are months or years behind. Almost as bad as them not getting them to begin with.
My last android phone was the Xiaomi Mi A1, supposed to 3 years support under Android One. The updates were delayed and it was a very bad experience overall, imo.
This is what made me leave android for iOS, just tired of having to change phones every 1-2 years and having several issues like the above.
I hope they bring the Fairphone 5 to the US in a reasonable amount of time, because the 4 is just too old for the price being charged.
The Fairphone 4 costs 649 here in Sweden so it doesn’t seem that different to me. Plus if it too gets 7 years of updates, that doesn’t seem like a bad price to me.
The main reason I moved to iOS over Android is because I hate changing phones every year, not even Google supports their phones as long as Apple does.
This is a good move by Fairphone. Hope they succeed.
7 years of updates sounds good, but it could also mean anything. They can update localisation files for 5 years
This is a good point.
You should’t change your phone every year. Just but phone with LineageOS support. And reflash it. 3+ years of additional support are yours.
My 2016 Xiaomi Mi 4S has received Android 13 update via LineageOS.
PixelExperience 13 is still being released for Redmi 4X, which is a 2016 phone as well
LineageOS is superior!!!
sure, depends what you’re looking for
Oh I don’t. Had my OnePlus One for six, and my current iPhone XS is 3. I just don’t like the hassle of flashing ROMs and enabling BS with Magisk and what not. I just want it to work.
Instead of all that, with my iPhone I input my pin, click “install update” and put my phone on the stand for ten minutes. It’s very hands-off.
I also only paid $500 for it so it’s been a value for the money.
fair opinion 🙂
I mean, if you’re changing phones every year that’s on you
I never did, but keeping my OnePlus One functional for six years took a lot of manual maintenance which I hated. Particularly the last two years.
My iPhone is super hands-off. I input my pin, click “install update” and put it on the charger for ten minutes or so, it does the rest.
No need to figure out which gapps to get, no need to find a good ROM, no BS with console applications, no hooking it up to the computer, no workarounds with Magisk to restore functionality lost with the flash, etc.
That’s fair. I feel like it’s quite manufacturer dependant now, and unfortunately if you don’t look beforehand you can end up with a bum deal in that regard.
Samsung are good in that they’ll now update their phones with 4 years of Android updates, plus an extra year of security updates. Google are similar, but I believe they do 3 years of Android updates and 1 year of security updates IIRC. Both of these work fine for me as I run a 3 year update cycle, but I’d feel like I got shafted if I got something like the ASUS Zenfone 9 which only has 2 years of updates promised.
It’s no secret why there’s still so many old iPhones kicking about when you consider how they’re still getting updated. I think the difference though is that Apple makes money off of you being in their ecosystem, whereas a manufacturer like Samsung, Asus, etc. make pennies if anything at all.
Why did they bring the Fairphone 4, but not the Fairphone 5?
There is no Fairphone 5 released yet in any regions.
The fairphone 5 isn’t out yet
This is the way! Hope competition does its thing and others will follow. Today’s phones have great hardware. If apps and android releases in the future won’t require much more power for no reason, I can see sticking to phones for that long.
wen fairphone 5?
I got few years left on my current devices but ready for the switch
If I check phones released 7 years old … I do not to use them today. Even if updates would be provided.
Why not? If the phone is physically still functional, and receives software updates, why does it matter if its 7 years old?
To each their own. There’s more to a phone than just if it’s physically working and supported with updates. I definitely wouldn’t be using an S7 Edge today because phones these days have better cameras, larger displays, better battery life, etc.
better cameras, larger displays, better battery life
Gotcha, that’s exactly what I was asking. I can see how that could matter to some.
It will be slow (new soft targets relatedly new he) Many technology improve noticeably on this time frame, für ne camera is important. 5 yars for a top spec phone is the limit for me.
Most 7 year old phones have more features that modern ones
Well, 7 yaars old fair phone 2 has 2gb of memory and 32 GB of storage. Not enough for my usecases in 2023. Not diving in microusb, BT 4.0, 2420mAh battery and other things.
I said more features. Such as removable battery, headphone jack, ir blaster, fm radio, SD card slot, notification led etc.
Ah sorry. Yes, if FM radio is more important than ram - this is a benefit.
Yeah because the only way to fit more RAM is to remove other usefull features instead of including both.
Why am I ever replying…
