So apparently we are now in the find out of the fuck around part of climate change. My only question is if Florida is still going to retain it’s electoral votes once it’s fully submerged underwater?
wasn’t there a metalocalypse episode about this?
Well, looks like we’re getting more directly hit than what usually happens. I suppose it was only a matter of time before our luck ran out.
Sorry comrade. I hope you and yours come through this okay.
It was a good run for 20 years.
I occasionally lurk on /r/collapse when big weather events crop up. (It’s way too racist for me under other circumstances.) I just read a comment that Florida has only 27 hospitals listed as “level 1 trauma centers”, the facilities most needed in these kinds of natural disasters. And guess where Tampa’s only one is?
On an island barely above sea level, in Tampa Bay. There are two bridges onto that island, neither of them with any sort of wind barriers. There’s an airport and some marina facilities but good luck making use of those in a hurricane.
If this were a movie I’d be laughing at the black comedy of it all.
My only question is if Florida is still going to retain it’s electoral votes once it’s fully submerged underwater?
The Three-Fifths CompromiseThe Underwater Compromise
The Three-Fifths Compromise
Is that because only three fifths of the state will not be submerged, or that each adult Floridian on average will have only three fifths of their own body above the water line?
Yes.
that thing we relentlessly shouted and warned about and pointed to mountains of evidence of for 50+ years is finally manifesting in more destructive ways than our models could predict?
no, it is actually the democrats using cloud seeding technology to destroy a swing state a month before an election, in a bid to steal the presidency and enforce Kamalunism.
They found the only way to be more annoying than to just keep denying.
Admit it’s not normal, and come up with a dumb fuck explanation.
There will always be “The Villages” unless something funny happens to it.
Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy may be living there soon
God is finally punishing Florida for Desantis.
Jokes aside this is awful.
Honestly kinda wondering if there’ll be any fallout on him regarding the upcoming devastation since there’s very little to no actual funded prep for hurricanes in the state and insurance companies are likely going to go insolvent form this.
Unlikely, IMO. It’s not so much that floridians can be made to believe that, actually, it’s Biden’s fault. It’s that DeSantis’ supporters will make the conscious choice to believe whatever they think is politically correct.
Massive destruction of the United States by natural disasters is the only way the global north will do something about the climate crisis.
I think it’s largely too late. When Germany is (maybe? If i read that right?) In the path of a hurricane we’re facing something no one is ready for.
What I think is going to happen is that major population and industrial centers are going to be destroyed faster than they can be repaired or moved, which will create knock-on effects damaging the whole economic system. Like there will be one single vital doo-dad factory that supplies 90% of a critical doo-dad, it’ll get flattened, and the doo-dad shortage will reduce the production of doohickeys by 30%, which will have it’s own effects.
And meanwhile the us and gulf nations will have millions of utterly impoverished refugees fleeing from region to region ahead of storms and heat bubbles, swamping city and state resources while the feds try to find a way to means test cholera.
Many of the gulf states are already in horrible shape, and this new normal of very strong storms is going to beat them flat and send their people fleeing.
Just trying not to think much about what happens in the rest of the gulf where the economy is even worse than say mississippi. : (
It’s real fucking grim.
And even then, only if it impacts the bottom line.
In the cold war, the Pentagon continually did calculations to see who would be better/worse off after a nuclear confrontation. There were people who thought that if the calculus favored the US at all that was enough to justify a nuclear war.
I’ve always suspected similar models have been used to calculate the impacts of climate change. Billions might die, but if it destabilizes China that’s a worthy sacrifice to maintain US hegemony. Better to be king of a dying world than give up an iota of power.
Couple that with the corporate competitive death drive.
China out-developing the US might be the only real hope.
In the cold war, the Pentagon continually did calculations to see who would be better/worse off after a nuclear confrontation. There were people who thought that if the calculus favored the US at all that was enough to justify a nuclear war.
For Dr. Strangelove Kubrick got a lot of inspiration from the Rand Corporation and other ghoulish orgs and people who were pressing that concept. An example…
Herman Kahn (February 15, 1922 – July 7, 1983) was an American physicist and a founding member of the Hudson Institute, regarded as one of the preeminent futurists of the latter part of the twentieth century. He originally came to prominence as a military strategist and systems theorist while employed at the RAND Corporation. He analyzed the likely consequences of nuclear war and recommended ways to improve survivability during the Cold War.
Kahn posited the idea of a “winnable” nuclear exchange in his 1960 book On Thermonuclear War for which he was one of the historical inspirations for the title character of Stanley Kubrick’s classic black comedy film satire Dr. Strangelove. In his commentary for Fail Safe, director Sidney Lumet remarked that the Professor Groeteschele character is also based on Herman Kahn. Kahn’s theories contributed to the development of the nuclear strategy of the United States.
I believe he was the first person to use “scenario” in its modern meaning. He needed a way to describe the future in stories as if written by people in the future. He used scenarios to suggest that a nuclear war could be won.
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Ninja edit
I just realized he was a shitposter for evil. He just made shit up to rationalize apocalyptic mass death, destruction, and suffering.
“Look, guys - if the Soviets kill x tens of millions of us but we kill y tens of millions of them - we win. Lemme explain…”
Reading history from back then, it’s terrifying how many airforce generals had to be metaphorically put in a full Nelson while they frothed and screamed to launch! Launch! Launch!
The us air force is about 1/2 completely delusional apocalyptic christian fascist death cult by personnel and it is an existential problem for the world.
The possibility of World War III has been on my mind. But just now I had a surreal thought about how the world could end in negative feedback loop of nuclear war, regular war, and climate change.
Israel goes to war with Iran and because it’s an “extinction war” Israel launches “limited” nuclear strikes which - of course - leads to global chaos, instability, and more war. “Limited” nuclear war is now no longer unthinkable so eventually there’s another. Chaos becomes the norm. Meanwhile - the world has had a sizeable number of regular wars due to the chaos, climate chaos, and the gigantic number of climate refugees. Because all of this - there’s no appetite for cooperation so any workable climate engineering project has any hope of working.
At this point - it hardly matters if there is a World War III or not. The earth is already in a death spiral of chaos, climate chaos, and war.
Idk if our current mode of production regardless where it’s being done really favours the environment though. I’ve read about swathes of the rainforest being cut down to mine minerals to build solar panels. We really need to rethink our relationship to technology and the earth if we want to avoid mass environmental destruction.
It’s too late to avoid it. At this point it’s more about how much can we preserve.
Yeah I agree, my main consideration is a development that in equal steps undermines the power of the West’s governments and bourgeoisie, while also providing a materially beneficial offramp for a critical mass of them. Thus hopefully sidestepping nuclear war and other MAD-like outcomes.
Some of that development might be delayed until some of the ideologically hawkish people die and are replaced by cynical self-interested people who can be bought out.
Whenever some fellow Star Trek fan talks about how “Darmok” is unrealistic because they think nuanced meaning can’t be derived from a simple phrase that requires broader context to understand, I just think of these emojis and memes in general. “Homer smiling, his finger raised.” “Fry, his eyes narrowed.” “Picard, face in hand.” Once one knows the context then they become great ways to quickly convey complex thoughts.
that scene where troi is explaining to picard except instead of a mug with brown tea in it she should have used an early 21st century internet meme and asked ‘well mr archeologist thefuck does this mean’
Yeah, it’s really just memes Audio Description Edition. Mofos act like they didn’t spend their childhood repeating Family Guy and South Park quotes to each other.
ngl I am pro-pictograms bc of this
