cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/17869503
I know I’m going against the grain here, I’m obviously no Harris lover, but also I’d prefer to be allowed to continue existing. If that’s controversial in leftist spaces then maybe I don’t want to spend any more time in leftist spaces.
Lmao people acting like how trans people are treated is a fraction of what Palestinians are going though. I’m sure if you went to Gaza you’d be voting third party to end the war at all costs.
Voting isn’t going to end the war. Not voting is also not going to end the war. Stop wasting your time and good will by chastising people for voting strategically. All you’re doing is sowing leftist division.
Voting strategically is only voting Democrats if you live in a swing state, otherwise it’s voting third party to popularize getting out of this duopoly
The Republican strategy is to contest the election in every state, county, and polling station. So no matter where people live, we need to high voter turnout to avoid a contested election. We do not want a repeat of the 2000 election.
Jeez I really feel like I live in a democracy! I have all these parties to vote for, but only 2 can be elected. Also I can’t vote for one because they’re facist. So I live in a democracy but I must vote for the Democrats, regardless of whether I want to.
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Also it’s the Democrats telling me all this. But the Democrats aren’t facists. The two parties aren’t the same.
No, I, a registered independent, trans person, am telling you this. People who are actually on the left are telling you this.
We live in a democracy. If we want to keep living in a democracy we need to vote for Kamala, because Trump is running on ending on our democracy and starting a christo-fascist dictatorship.
Even if by some miracle you manage to convince enough people to vote 3rd party that the Democrats take notice, what makes you think it’ll change anything? The most the Democrats would do is adjust their rhetoric; money makes policy, not votes. You’re doing more harm than good when you try aggressively guilting people into voting 3rd party when the election is literally days away. Refocus your energy towards more productive things.
but voting third party isn’t going to help end the war at all Trump has made it get clear that if he wins he will push Israel to destroy Gaza faster. explicitly. he wants them dead. a third party vote doesn’t work in a first past the post system.
If everyone voted third party, we would elect candidates who actually want to end the war, so yes voting third party does help end the war.
In a more realistic world, it pressures the Democrats to change their mind about Gaza to get the third party voters back
We live in a first-past-the-post system so everyone is systemically disincentivized to vote third party. Voting third party acts as a spoiler for the Democrats. And historically when Democrats lose they move further to the right. The most useful course of action is for everyone to vote for Kamala so we can start shifting the Overton window to the left.