Reddit made the mistake of ignoring its core users
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Posted in r/ModCoord by u/BuckRowdy • 1,579 points and 527 comments
  • mykl@lemmy.mlEnglish
    41·
    2 years ago

    Yeah, this seems very unlikely to go anywhere other than in gaining media attention (which is a fair aim to have at this point).

  • quortez@kbin.social
    16·
    2 years ago

    Seems like a rather large shitpost, but I encourage them to cause chaos by any means necessary (feasibility be damned).

  • nmac101@kbin.social
    10·
    2 years ago

    They should sue reddit for violating GDPR too (if anyone that deleted posts/comments on their profile and reddit restored them is European)

  • Thedogspaw@lemmy.mlEnglish
    8·
    2 years ago

    This probably won’t get very far but no harm trying and if it actually does work there is a ton to be gained

    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.mlEnglish
      5·
      2 years ago

      Being that the message that Spez was trying to give off at times was that developers weren’t paying their fair share, I think this gives the a great example of how Reddit essentially doesn’t pay their fair share. They aren’t creating the content, and they aren’t paying the mods to “manage” the content.

  • EnigmaNL@kbin.social
    103·
    2 years ago

    Good luck to them. I dislike Reddit as much as the next guy, but this whole thing doesn’t stand a chance. You do volunteer work nobody even asked you to do and then demand money? How does that make any sense at all?

    • BuddhaBeettle@kbin.social
      5·
      2 years ago

      They are probably not gonna get backpay, but what this could achieve is to force reddit’s hand in legally recognizing mod’s work from that point on and giving the mods more standing than they have now.
      At the very worst, it sends a message and helps to continue bringing to light reddit’s shitty practices.

    • zkikiz@lemmy.ml
      61·
      2 years ago

      About as much sense as building a company off free volunteer labor and then acting like you own those volunteers and the money they helped you earn

      It doesn’t take a ton of effort to make a website and an app, Lemmy is already hockey-sticking off entirely volunteer everything.

    • nanometre@beehaw.orgEnglish
      1·
      2 years ago

      I don’t think they actually think they’ll get backpaid, it’s more the principle of the thing. You’re saying Reddit isn’t earning the money it should, how about all the free work mods have done over the years to make Reddit into anything worth monetising?

  • ActuallyASeal@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    2 years ago

    I’m not seeing any serious suggestions of that there. Looks more like hypothetical talk.

    I actually had a similar thought to that yesterday. Could moderators be classified as employees for the work they do?

    However, the Supreme Court has made it clear that the FLSA was not intended “to stamp all persons as employees who without any express or implied compensation agreement might work for their own advantage on the premises of another.”

    I think you would have a massive uphill struggle to argue Reddit’s moderators are employees in court. Without that no back pay and no union.

  • croobat@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    2 years ago

    It would be really cool but these were the guys that backboned after being threatened to checks notes not being able to work for free.

  • misterhuh@lemmy.mlEnglish
    31·
    2 years ago

    If trump can run and win on sowing chaos, why not use that tactic and see how far it can go. I say go for it.

  • liontigerwings@lemmy.worldEnglish
    31·
    2 years ago

    Lol. Good luck finding a lawyer to that that case. I’m with the mods but I assume this a joke that got out of hand.

    • onepinksheep@kbin.social
      51·
      2 years ago

      I assume they’re realistic enough to know that this really won’t go anywhere and that the whole point of the discussion is simply to make some noise.

  • BrotherCod@kbin.social
    42·
    2 years ago

    Won’t work. It’s a volunteer, unpaid position. They have no legs to stand on in this case. The only real course of action they have is just not giving Reddit their service at all. Stop going there, stop giving them clicks and traffic.

    • imnotgooz@kbin.social
      7·
      2 years ago

      I replied to this type of comment in another thread. Reddit is governed by California law. There may be something here, since reddit was benefiting off of free labor. Volunteering might not actually matter, since moderators were putting in actual hours for the benefit of reddit, while not receiving anything back. Without mods, reddit wouldn’t have the power to moderate all the subs, thus, reddit relied on mods to do unpaid company work which would have cost reddit millions per year if they were to pay moderators. I think there’s a thin case here.

      • parrot-party@kbin.social
        1·
        2 years ago

        The real power would be in the union anyway. If they could gather the majority of mods and they actually went through with a strike, it would be a huge test for Reddit. They would have to bring in a ton of scabs or cave to the mods. Scabs may work in the king run, but it would also destroy every community they did it to.

        So the real question is whether these mods will actually act as a union or will it’s members buckle in fear of being replaced.

        • Nyefan@lemmy.ml
          1·
          2 years ago

          I would guess that, since their livelihoods aren’t on the line, mods would be far less likely to buckle than typical workers - if they can get organized in the first place.

    • HawkMan@kbin.social
      62·
      2 years ago

      the moment reddit starting threatening to fire them and take over THEIR communities, ut became a job.

      • DudePluto@lemmy.world
        01·
        2 years ago

        Eh I see what you mean but technically reddit has always been up front about it being volunteer, and they did give them the choice to step down instead of reopening. So I can’t see it being held up in court

        But I’m NAL