This was in Lemmy world politics.
Power tripping bastard for sure, banning someone for misspelling words? If anything that makes him look like a troll, not the OP.
jordanlund’s modding is very questionable.
does he know how to mod or he is just doing based on his feelz?
Because it’s clearly normal for your typography and patience to improve when you’re pissed off
Pallastinian:
That cat also has a right to self defense.
Are we really bringing back the “Ban you for coughing” nonsense from Reddit?
Yes.
Fother Mucker!
If you bring up anything remotely political you’re absolutely going to get banned
I was banned from globalnews (or similar) for saying that killing civilians qwas bad even when Hamas did it. I was banned for being a ‘genocide supporter’
And then I was banned from every single lemmy.ml community I was in (signal, fairphone, fdroid etc) for talking about the uyguhr genocide
So yeah, I should probably see this as a chance to quit social media completely and go touch grass
Jordanlund is almost as big a piece of shit as LyingSquid.
“Against me? No. The differentiator I experience is because I’m male. I’ve had a lot of anti-male sentiment. I lost a job because of it. Because somebody didn’t like having talking to a guy. Such is life.”
This is some borderline incel bullshit here.
You ever read one thing about someone, and all of a sudden, everything about them comes into focus and makes sense?
I’m sure there is nothing else to the ‘I lost my job because somebody didn’t like having to talk to a guy’ thing either.
That’s kind of what I meant by the incel thing. To be it reads like “I was talking to coworkers in a terribly sexist and misogynistic manner and I got fired. That’s how a TOP 1% MAN speaks, so obviously I got fired because someone doesn’t like having to talk to a man, not because I’m a piece of shit with no self-awareness.”
The whole bit about sympathizing with the BLM protesters but wishing they would protest in places where cops have actually shot people instead of in his city because it inconvenienced him screams that he’s unaware of both his privilege and his power, which only reinforces the whole lack of self-awareness thing.
Ahahahhaha how have I never seen this before?
Oh wow
Incredible lol, built to be a lemmy.world mod. Liberal final boss material. Holy shit.
This isn’t satire? It reads as satire…
If that’s actually him I’ll make that my profile picture and start posting in his subs more.
Dude’s got the stereotypical incel attitude and the look. Built for modding.
LMFAO, a picture really is worth a million words. How does he look EXACTLY like you’d imagine a permanently online troll would?
Wait, what? FlyingSquid seems fine. In the only drama I saw involving them, it seemed to me like they were in the right. I asked someone who was all heated up about what a POS they were for some details or examples, and literally all they could come up with was a single un-called for message FlyingSquid sent to one user months ago, which for a full-time moderator means they’re way ahead of the curve.
Edit: Maybe I should ask for examples, what did FlyingSquid do?
FlyingSquid has a tendency to threaten moderator action in response to arguments they’re heavily involved in, which often comes off as a last-ditch effort to ‘win’.
Well, that’s not ideal. Have they actually taken action on it, though? If it’s just getting heated in an argument, that definitely seems not as bad as handing out bans for misspelling “Palestinian” or talking about jury nullification.
I got a three day temp ban after providing examples and further context disproving their arguments.
Usually I think they aren’t that bad, but they do sometimes lose their cool on sensitive subjects.
You’re talking about the exchange featuring your statements “The victim gave consent (as far as a 12-year old can do that of course). She in fact started self-harming because he got convicted and still does not regret or feel bad about the encounter.” and “According to the case notes, the attraction was mutual. He did not have to coerce her, by her own statements. It’s why he wasn’t convicted of grooming. Seriously, do at least a modicum of research.” Right? That’s the only time I see that anyone moderated you. Also, it wasn’t FlyingSquid that gave you that ban. They were just arguing with you, and then I think someone else banned you for your statements.
Here’s what Wikipedia says about Steven van de Velde:
He was convicted of child rape in 2016; in 2014, when Van de Velde was 19, he raped a 12-year-old British girl, after contacting her on social media, travelling to Britain to meet her, and giving her alcohol.
This is, to me, yet another example of FlyingSquid doing absolutely nothing wrong, and then people spreading rumors about how they’re terrible.
Guy never admits he’s wrong, ever. And I love the fact that he’s married with a kid and seems to be online 24/7.
And they’re arguably wrong a LOT. Not only that but everything is always black and white with them, there is no grey area or different perspectives possible.
As a rule, strong feelings about issues do not emerge from deep understanding.
I’ve seen FS straight up lie when banning people, making up excuses etc. For a period they even followed me around commenting on nearly everything I did trying to harass me until I called him out and the “coincidental” replies magically stopped.
FS is worse than JL from every interaction I’ve had with eirher. JL I can see having a bit of common sense and maturity.
Can you show me some examples?
Not without spending time digging through his post history. Which after working so many 12 hour days this week I am in no mood to do.
I’m not here to make people take my side, this is simply my opinion of him based on my year of interactions.
Fair enough. I think I can just search for the following you around behavior you described, and take a look at it and see how it seems to me.
Not that I’m doubting you necessarily, but there is some pretty wild revisionist history in these comments, all of it not matching the evidence on examination and all of it pointing to exactly the same conclusion, which is pretty weird. So I’d like to look for myself.
Not on my quokk.au account i don’t think, may have been my old kbin or sh.itjust.works if that helps.
I don’t know why you’re so invested in trying to whitewash FS, but what makes you think you trying to discredit the many experiences with others is going to change anyone’s mind about the worst mod on Lemmy? Your opinion on the experiences of others doesn’t mean shit.
That’s a funny way of spelling “I don’t have any examples.”
Yeah, my interactions with FlyingSquid have been fine, but then again, I’ve never interacted with them in their mod role.
I’m against the genocide in Palestine, and sometimes comment that way.
From what I’ve seen FlyingSquid tends to be quite fair when moderating, doesn’t abuse the mod tools and is quite respectful and civil outside of the mod role. On occasion I’ve had disagreements and civil arguments with squid, and not once has the hammer been used as a conversation-ending argument.
Jordan however…
I’ve asked people over and over for a single example of FlyingSquid doing this. Only one person has responded, and that was with an “example” where neither the argument with FlyingSquid nor FlyingSquid being the one that banned them was truthful. This is one of the reasons I think this is a deliberate attempt to start destructive rumors about him.
Edit: Someone else has now given an example. They had said that someone was, among other things, a “fucking shitwit,” “self righteous piece of subhuman filth,” “a fucking idiot,” “fucking brain dead,” “your argument is stupid and you deserve what the republicans are gonna do to you,” and that they “hope it’s painful and prolonged.” Then they got a three day ban, and then said the ban was a way for FlyingSquid to wield his mod powers to “win” the argument against their clearly superior position.
There’s a firmly held belief by a certain segment of the community that everyone on Lemmy is liberals who will ban you if you are anti-genocide. Everyone on Lemmy is anti-genocide. Complaining that it’s full of these liberals and pro-genocide people is just a way to do some aggrieved whining whenever someone is disagreeing with some total nonsense. “We need to hate on Biden because genocide” “Yes but Trump is ten times worse” “Oh I see, you’re one of those pro-genocide people trying to censor me” is roughly how it goes.
Everyone on Lemmy is anti-genocide.
I’m gonna quote that, just because it’s so fucking stupid and I think it needs emphasis to show how disconnected you obviously are.
Most people are anti-genocide. I think many people do not agree on what genocide is. There’s a large segment of people who believe Israel is in a perpetual existential crisis, surrounded by countries full of people who think Israel shouldn’t exist and that pretty much goes for Jews in general; and that Israel is merely defending itself. Personally, while I do agree that Israel is surrounded by a lot of people who don’t think it should exist, I also believe this does not justify their (collective) behaviors: the settlements, and the genocide in Palestinian.
So the person you replied to was, I think, saying that most people oppose Genocide, many disagree on whether what Israel is doing is genocide, and a few would like to see some ethnic and/or cultural groups entirely eradicated. I agree with GP that the last group is relatively small.
Maybe I should have said “99%”, I have seen some overtly pro-Israel users. They’re pretty few and far between, though. The vast majority of the time, it’s someone using a lazy strawman to attack someone by pretending they like genocide, instead of dealing directly with what they’re saying.
Can you link me to some examples of defense of genocide? I can pretty much guarantee you that whatever example you send me is not going to be a defense of genocide, it’s just going to be some opinion you disagree with which you are pretending implies support for genocide, so you don’t have to engage with what it actually says.
No, what you can promise me is that you’ll attempt to rationalize it as something it’s not, the same way you’re going to great lengths to try to whitewash FlyingSquid. The problem with that is, you’re just some random idiot on Lemmy, and I don’t care if you’re delusional or not, so I don’t see why I should take that kind of time debating you. I don’t care if you agree with me or not, so there’s no benefit in it for me whatsoever.
You messaged me, man. There wasn’t benefit for you in typing up your opinion in the first place, either. If you’re willing to spend time yelling about how it is, but not willing to demonstrate how it actually is when asked questions about it, then I’m going to draw the obvious conclusion.
In my experience FlyingSquid tends to participate in the stupid and toxic aspects of the communities he’s policing but doesn’t stoop to abusing the power, certainly not to the extent of others I’ve seen. i.e. I think he could do more positive actions to build a good community but he doesn’t use as many negative actions to actively harm the community.
Lemmy.world is kinda lame in general though, especially when it comes to politics. Very narrow minded and like a bunch of piranhas when it comes to suppressing dissent. If you are easing into lemmy from Reddit you’ll feel right at home there.
They definitely will abuse it randomly. I know they’re going through lots of shit but damn they have a very hair trigger
Do you have an example of this?
finally a space to diss on jordanlund bless 😭
i was banned by this mod for politely noting how certain comments lead to escalation of inappropriate behavior. i noted how by bantering with infringing accounts after comment removal, !world@lemmy.world mods actually increased the work they needed to do to remove abusive content and amplified toxic voices as a whole. i used no unkind language and really at the time i genuinely hoped for improvement to the quality of the community.
their response?
- permabanned
- for “mod abuse”
- one month after i made the post in question
don’t use !world@lemmy.world. their entire mod team is dedicated to just kind of fucking around in a sandbox with thousands of users, not to creating a space for genuine constructive world news engagement. preferably also just stop using lemmy.world when possible.
World is the most carbon copy of Reddit of all instances. And that’s not a pro.
Lemmy has become Reddit
I got perma banned from reddit for telling pedophiles in the doctor disrespect community that regardless of legality, fucking a 16 year old makes you a scumbag. Funny that.
I was banned by an admin for asking a mod why I was banned.
Lemmy.World mods are extremely Zionist and frequently ban users for saying anything remotely pro Palestinian or making a claim about Israel without evidence.
Saying 20.000 killed Palestinians were Hamas without evidence to justify the genocide however, is totally fine.
A very open Zionist “gedeliyah” got promoted to mod on their news community.
Imagine being a regular person with no dog in this race personally and still going yeah, genocide seems good.
I just checked. It was two days ago, but the story about Amnesty International declaring it a genocide is still on the second page of results on !world@lemmy.world, and the very top story on !news@lemmy.world after a series of ones about the United shooting is about Israel killing an American family right after the US government told them where they were so they could avoid killing them.
If the lemmy.world mods are banning people for saying anything remotely pro-Palestinian, they must be busy with something else right now. Are you sure that someone wasn’t calling for Israeli civilians to be killed, or something, and got banned for that? Because that might seem similar, to someone with a particular type of mindset, but it’s not the same thing, and pretending it’s that first thing when it’s the second is dishonest.
Zionist “gedeliyah”
Do you have any example of this ?
He constantly brings up Hamas at every thread about Israel committing crimes and never condemns the IDF. The both sidesing is way too obvious.
Alright, found this post: https://lemmy.world/post/21895613
That is one good example but still pretty milquetoast. I’m talking full on articles about Israel openly calling for genocide and that mod barges in with the ‘actually there are a few bad apples in Israel but that genocide thing is really what Hamas to do to Israel.’
And after doing that for a few months that the LemmyWorld team decided “yeah this guy has what it takes to become a mod here”.
I got banned by him once because I pointed out, in rather colorful language, that a personal attack isn’t an ad hominem if it’s not directly used to refute an argument.
It was a three-day temp ban, in response to:
The evils are the same. There’s no lesser evil. Dead is dead is dead is dead, you fucking shitwit. You absolute twatwaffle. You self righteous piece of subhuman filth.
You do realize how incredibly stupid that argument is, don’t you? Please tell me you realize what a fucking idiot you are for saying something like that. I want to believe liberals aren’t so fucking brain dead. It was just sarcasm, right?
That’s not an ad hominem. If I say your argument is wrong because you’re a piece of shit, that’s an ad hominem. If I point out that the kids in Gaza are dead either way, so your argument is stupid and you deserve what the republicans are gonna do to you, and that I’ll enjoy watching liberals get their comeuppance and that I hope it’s painful and prolonged, that’s not an ad hominem. Learn what words mean before you use them, dumbass.
I don’t think it was the part about ad hominem that led to the ban.
It’s actually been really interesting reading how people summarize the interactions they had with moderators, and then looking at what actually happened, to see the parts they left out of the summary, and the stuff they put in the summary that wasn’t there.
The people who attract moderator attention sometimes also tend to argue in bad faith and engage in personal attacks. Who knew.
Oh man, I enjoyed reading those again, so thanks. Brings a tear to my eye, definitely some of my better work.
“where is the palestinian right to selfdefense” is dumb enough for a ban. fuck hamas, herzbüllah and the other terror proxies. and those who did not fight them are collaborators.
remember this: there are 9 ppl at a table and then a nazi joins. no one walks away? bam, 10 nazis.
Remind me not to sit at the table with you then.
Lol, look at this fucking Nazi.
When you read this thread, pay attention to how “PhillipTheBucket” runs defense for LW mods. It’s subtle and gross. Constantly asking for examples and arguing in bad faith.
There are two types of logic.
- “(Person) is a known POS, they did this bad thing”
- “Can you show me an example?”
- “Here you go.”
and
- “(Person) is a known POS, they did this bad thing”
- “Can you show me an example?”
- “HOW DARE YOU”
I don’t know why you’re accusing me of operating on the first logic, like it’s a bad thing, but you do you.
wtf is it with lemmy world mods. you think this is reddit? do you want your instance to be an echo champer or want users to just leave and join another?
Clearly you are faking your outrage if you can’t spell “chamber”. You’re rumbled. Banned for trolling.
Lemmy.World so federated it is ran by the feds.
