• neograymatter@lemmynsfw.com
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    4 hours ago

    True, thats part of the reason why I didn’t try it. Bazzite seemed much closer to being truely immutable, vice the “read-only” safety rails SteamOS gives you. I like to tinker too much to put it on my own machine, but I’ll probably put Bazzite on my son’s gaming machine next time I upgrade it.

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      Bazzite seemed much closer to being truely immutable

      If you meant that it’s even harder to tinker/change/configure etc compared to SteamOS, then I’d like to inform you that this is false. Fedora Atomic, and thus Bazzite, facilitates quite a lot actually. Of course, it’s not as moldable as say Arch or Gentoo. To illustrate this, I won’t bother you with all the things it can do. Because that would take a while. Instead, I’ll only focus on the things it actually can not do. On the top of my head, the following comes to mind:

      • Rip systemd out and replace it with another init, but I’m unaware if traditional Fedora even facilitates this to begin with. Bazzite’s founder came by and corrected me on this. Even this is probably possible as a custom image.
      • UKI
      • Setup systemd-boot (or any other bootloader) instead of GRUB
      • Kmods can be hit or miss; what’s found here is accessible. What remains can be very finicky.
      • 3rd party repositories can be hit or miss; for example, both Terra and Tailscale work, but e.g. ProtonVPN may not.
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        2 hours ago

        UKI is something we very much want to do in the future, but it’s a long-term goal

        As far as replacing the init system, I think even in traditional Fedora that would be extremely challenging, but it could probably be done as a custom image.

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          2 hours ago

          Thank you for chiming in and providing your thoughts!

          While we’re at it, I absolutely appreciate your work. Wonderful stuff! Thank you from the bottom of my heart!

          UKI is something we very much want to do in the future, but it’s a long-term goal

          That’s lovely to hear!

          As far as replacing the init system, I think even in traditional Fedora that would be extremely challenging, but it could probably be done as a custom image.

          Aight. I’ll change the list then. Thank you for enlightening me on this. The feasibility as a custom image is really encouraging; perhaps I’ll give it a go 😜.