Do you agree? If not, what’s your counter arguments?

  • Xatolos@reddthat.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Most people don’t use specialized audio hardware.

    And this is about the average use case for most people, not some randomly small niche case point.

    • hiddengoat@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      9
      ·
      1 year ago

      Random? Small? Niche? Nah, just an entire global professional industry and hundreds of millions of hobbyists across every walk of life around the world. Nothing important there.

      Here’s a 19 minute video trying to explain the brainfuck of stupid that is the Linux sound landscape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxEXMHcwtlI

      Is that the sound of goalposts being moved in the background?

      • Xatolos@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        We are talking about average users (the whole thread is about it) and you want to now claim that “hundreds of millions” of people use specialized audio equipment and that this is supposed to represent the average person?

        That would be moving the goal post… Not to mention grossly inflated numbers of affected people.

      • @hiddengoat @original_reader @LastYearsPumpkin @Grangle1 @Xatolos yikes. Troll much?

        Pipewire fixes a lot of issues and is a huge improvement. The best part of OSS and Linux is its the upstart, the underdog, the do-it-for-the-love, the chronically underfunded, hacker os. You’ll find things not as polished as the proprietary alternatives but that’s okay. There’s far more to enjoy: auditable code, open to contributions, infinitely customizable

        • hiddengoat@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          7
          ·
          1 year ago

          Oh honey, you’ll know when I’m trolling.

          Pipewire sucks less. It still does not make hardware work properly.

          I have no use for underdogs when it comes to getting shit done. Being less polished is not okay when it comes to getting shit done. I do not give a shit about auditing code when what I want to do is record a song. I do not give a shit about contributing code to literally everything I ever open because precious few pieces of software are actually feature-complete. Trying to push “it’s half-assed and broken” as a positive is a new level of Linux evangelist gaslighting I haven’t seen and I’ve been around for a whiiiiiiile.

          “Sure, only of your hardware works and the half that does has latency issues or can’t communicate with more than one piece of software and also the software can’t really communicate with itself very well BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE THEMES!”

          I really REALLY would like Linux to suck less ass at audio but more than two decades of trying to get any developers to listen to someone that actively makes music rather than software has proven completely fruitless. At a certain point you realize that devs are there to wank their egos, not produce usable software. At that point you shrug and buy a Mac. Then you plug in almost any piece of musical gear made in the past four decades and holy shit it actually works because MacOS has one sound system that everyone uses because it isn’t shit.

          But yeah, somehow having three or four incompatible systems is totally better…

          • MycoPete@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            Well good thing it’s all open source, feel free to get in there and fix your problems with your audio equipment. Something makes me think you’d rather complain about it on the internet than fix anything though.