• 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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    4 minutes ago

    I have to assume they’re targeting 30fps because that would be using all the bells and whistles like raytracing and running at 4k on the consoles; which are unlikely to be able to achieve 60fps or higher with all that shit on.

    And, as they have done with literally every single GTA since 3: It likely won’t release on PC at the same time. It will come 1-2 full years later and when it does, will have more features and run at a higher frame rate.

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    8 hours ago

    30 fps Lol, what kind of bushit is this? 30 fucking fps. Unplayable garbage.

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    8 hours ago

    I hope so! I’m interested in buying the single player game, and have absolutely zero interest in the online experience.

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    13 hours ago

    My 144 hz monitor has ruined my ability to enjoy normal refresh rates in games. I need a support group for this ffs.

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      7 hours ago

      I’m not. I don’t have a tricked out PC to wait LONGER THAN MY SON HAS BEEN ALIVE for a 30 frames AAA game.

      That isn’t AAA. It’s pure corporate greed.

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    7 hours ago

    We’ll get 60 and above on pc a while later anyway. Also the sold separately thing is probably just like they did with RDR2 where you could get everything or just the multiplayer part of the game, which I personally think is fine.

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    22 hours ago

    Good Lord, so much marketing about “next-gen” yet 60 still ain’t a guarantee 🤦‍♂️

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      8 hours ago

      30 fps wouldn’t be bad if its consistent and stable, have you ever played on a low end PC at 15-22 fps?

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        8 minutes ago

        the thing is “a pc” is very vague.

        you are probably talking about a pc several generations behind, in that case its awesome that the game even runs.

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    1 day ago

    I don’t do modern consoles, do people consider 30fps acceptable?

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      16 hours ago

      Very rare to see 30fps games on PS5 that don’t have a performance option to get to 60.

      Especially action games.

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        12 hours ago

        It’s a number that divides easily into 120, which mattered more for old TVs, and it’s far enough over the threshold to trick our minds into seeing a bunch of still frames as a moving thing.

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      20 hours ago

      Not me. I think it’s insane to ship a PS5 game that performs that poorly even on non-“pro” consoles

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      The majority of people playing don’t know the difference. I am shocked there won’t be a 60fps mode, i can’t remember the last time I’ve been forced to play at 30fps outside of playing older games locked to it.

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        I would imagine the game is at the highest possible graphic fidelity for consoles, and also the scale of the game will have a factor.

        Remember. Gta V came out 12 years ago. It didn’t run at 60fps on any console until the PS5

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          Yeah, i know, for myself I didn’t really get to experience it until 2016 when I built myself a PC with mid range specs and then when I got the ps4 pro in like 2018. I say it’s one of those things where once you get to have it, you never wanna go back.

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            Yeah. I have a PS5 and I heard gta 6 won’t launch on PC right away, but then I heard it is coming to PC lol. So idk. I’m almost hitting 40 and playing on my couch and tv has been more fun lately. But sometimes I just know a game will run much better on my PC.

            What I should do is put my current build into a super small box with an external PSU and just install steam os and hook it up to my tv

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        It’s not shocking, when you consider the level of graphical fidelity they’ll be pushing on screen.

        The more detail you add, the lower the framerate, on any given hardware. They will be balancing “oh my God!” level graphics, with playable frame rates. The fact they’re shooting for such a relatively low frame rate, shows how hard they’re pushing the hardware.

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      1 day ago

      Absolutely not. I don’t remember the last time I played a game without 60fps performance option on my PS5

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      For most people the further they sit away from a screen the less they are going to notice it. And console gamers play on a tv from the couch. Of course if you show them a 60fps version after they played in 30fps they will notice but most people don’t understand why that is and thus not care. Like how many people watch movies with motion smoothing on since they don’t see that it looks smoother than the movies in the cinema.

      Rockstar can get away with this since the vast majority of GTA player will be mainstream casual gamers that only have fifa/madden and CoD in their gaming collection.

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      Most don’t, the people who say they don’t realize it probably also say that “there’s no difference between 1080p and 4k!”

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      Yes, 30fps is fine, and expected even if you’re also expecting ultra realistic graphics. This expectation that people have of games being 60 fps and being stupid realistic is nonsense. You want realistic graphics and reflections when a game is first released, your gonna get 30 fps. And honestly, you can hardly tell the difference anyway.

      Edit: Always expect the downvotes when I say this. The people in gaming subs, almost never understand how games are developed. Just demand without understanding the limitations of hardware and software.

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        9 hours ago

        Some games go to 120fps and are actually realistic.

        GTA was never about realism, it just had a huge open world with tons of things to do.

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          None that I’ve ever seen. It takes a lot of work to get good graphics even for 60 fps, a lot of optimization, that depending on the type of game, might be very expensive and time consuming to do.

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    I hope they release as independent games, with a bundle deal ideally.

    I dont want to buy the multiplayer on console because i dont pay for console subscriptions just to play multiplayer. I will wait for a PC release to play purchase multiplayer once and not indefinitely pay for it.

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    Hey, maybe this time the script kiddies won’t be able to sabotage people’s SINGLEPLAYER GAMES!

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        12 hours ago

        it does

        rockstar like any ultracapitalistic brand loves money so much they’d do anything.

        30fps…because switch2…because money.

        i expect their onlinestuff to be prime ea lootbox and ai upsell shit. get a yacht for 1 million.

        and again a like gta5 and 4…a story so superficial it will intrigue all the 15yr old alphamales and ppl that never grew up.

        why dont you just join this milc metaverse stuff? more enshittification without the extra hurdles.

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          It makes a lot of sense to at least ask the question if you should split this game into two parts when each part has a very different pool of customers. I don’t think they’ll do it, because they want people in the online component to be present for multiplayer in the first place, but it makes sense to ask the question.

          If this game is going to have issues running at 60 FPS on the PS5, I don’t think 30 FPS is for the benefit of the Switch 2. Even if it was, Switch 2 is a platform that people will want to play GTA on. The tech that Rockstar is trying to push forward comes at the cost of frame rate. That’s not making it shittier; it’s making different trade-offs.