Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella admits giving up on Windows Phone and mobile was a mistake::Satya Nadella wrote off Microsoft’s Nokia phone business acquisition and now says the company’s exit from mobile was a mistake.

  • Trimatrix@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I really wanted window 10 phones to take off. Their development into their now defunct projects such as Continuum and Munchkin in my opinion could have jump started and sustained smartphones as a legitimate productivity PC. Imagine having a cellphone you can dock anywhere and have a full blown windows OS to do things on…. That’s where they were heading.

    Alas, the best we got is Dex and stage manager both being cellphone OS solutions for work PC tasks.

    • brenno@lemmy.brennoflavio.com.br
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      8 months ago

      Canonical also tried this a few years ago with their Ubuntu Touch crowdfunding and failed. Even released some convergent devices but that didn’t sell much. My impression is that although the concept is cool it is simply not appealing for the general audience

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        8 months ago

        People want software and a functioning phone. Linux, in all its glory, is not for consumers.

        The only hope we had was Microsoft, but that’s a joke in itself.

        So unless someone wants to try to take on Google, and toss billions at it, it’s just one shitty android form after the other.

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          8 months ago

          Linux, in all its glory, is not for consumers.

          Guess we should tell everyone using Android phones and Chromebooks that their devices aren’t actually ready for consumers. Everyone with Steam Decks should get rid of them too.

          Should probably also extend that to Unix. Maybe some day MacOS, iOS, PlayStation OS, Nintendo’s OS, etc will be ready for consumers

          The issue isn’t Linux. The issue is that spearheading a new system in a highly competitive market is hard. Microsoft didn’t use Linux and they still failed, despite buying a massive well-loved brand and investing several billion

          Shit, HTC and LG couldn’t stay alive, Sony are a shadow of their former selves in the phone market. And they didn’t even have to worry about pushing a whole new software experience.

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          8 months ago

          Why are people downvoting ? Yes I love Linux too and all, but be honest. It is not relevant in the mass desktop market. That didn’t make it more easy for Ubuntu touch.

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            8 months ago

            People are downvoting because it was an ill-informed comment.

            The issue isn’t Linux. A large majority of phones use Linux, as do many other consumer devices. Saying “Linux isn’t for consumers” is extremely daft.

            Ubuntu’s phone efforts didn’t fail because it ran Linux, it failed because almost all phone brands do unless they have Chinese backing.

            Microsoft pumped billions into smartphones and failed. Was it because of Linux? No. Windows phone didn’t run Linux. So I guess by the above logic, Windows isn’t suitable for consumers?

            Shit, HTC and LG are big names that died in the phone space despite not having the hard job of creating their own ecosystem. Samsung has walked back on Tizen and a bunch of other in-house stuff and started shifting back to Google services. Sony is only surviving by abandoning the mass market.

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          8 months ago

          Linux on Desktop is fine, because it’s had a long time to mature and improve.

          The problem is that Linux mobile software is very immature, so it isn’t ready for a general audience yet.

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      8 months ago

      Imagine a Lumia with one of these new Snapdragon 8cx cores in it that slides into a lapdock. Plenty of power for like 90% of people