• snooggums@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    I am not calling it rushing because they are passing, but because they are going a significantly higher speed when starting to merge, requiring them to slam on the brakes and cause the same issues that merging too early causes.

    Like going 20+ mph over the posted speed, not just going the speed limit in the open lane.

    People who stay in the open lane and don’t pass in the no passing zone and just zipper merge at the end are not the people I am talking about when I say rushing.

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      1 year ago

      Right, and the real fault lies with the early mergers who cause the open lane to exist in the first place, not the opportunistic drivers who fill it.

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        1 year ago

        Early mergers don’t make people speed in the open lane and abruptly merge in an unsafe manner.

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          1 year ago

          You can either work with human nature, or try to work against it. But if you choose the latter, you’re gonna have a bad time.

          As someone with a background in traffic engineering, I care about what actually works. Making yourself feel good by passing judgement on drivers doesn’t actually do anything to solve the problem.

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            1 year ago

            Are you saying that human nature is to speed in the open lane if other people merge early?

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                1 year ago

                Because it is stupid to blame early merging people instead of just assuming the speeders are the same people that speed and do shitty sudden lane changes in normal traffic.

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                  1 year ago

                  You don’t get it: the blame doesn’t matter. What matters is designing the built environment in such a way as to afford good behaviors and preclude (or at least discourage) bad ones.

                  That’s why traffic calming works much better than merely putting in speed limit signs with lower numbers on them, for instance, and why I really liked this suggestion elsewhere in the thread.