Norway has succeeded in getting the European Data Protection Board (EDPB) to make permanent and extend across Europe its ban on Meta (Facebook’s parent company) harvesting user data for targeted ads on Facebook and Instagram.
Watch them cry foul, threaten to pull out, start a legal fight, then go nowhere like the abusive type they are.
I wish they would pull out. It’s fucking ridiculous that so much of Europe is apparently just ok with using a Meta product for the defacto texting platform (WhatsApp).
Eh, it’s not like we started using it because it was Meta’s. They bought it when it was already popular, and switching everyone to something else is difficult.
Sure I understand the reasons why it’s this way, but it doesn’t make it a good idea.
Yeah, WhatsApp was ported to basically every single platform that was relevant in 2009-2010 when it launched: iOS, Android, Blackberry, Symbian, Series 40 and Windows Phone. Supporting Blackberry and Nokia mobile OS which were huge at the time as well as the new smartphone OS’s was genius.
Oh, it’s Messenger in Hungary. Not that it’s any better, just saying.
I mean that’s basically the same difference. It’s owned by the same company.
That is what I said, yes.
Meta is the cancer of the internet. The sooner they leave the better.
Better than the US, at least in Europe you are not forced to buy a specific device just to be able to communicate.
Who knows, if Facebook gets severely limited by these laws, maybe we’ll all switch to Signal or something.
I use Android and I exchange text messages with iPhone users all the time. They don’t use iMessage with me because my friends aren’t assholes.
You’re not forced to buy a specific device there. They all text each other fine. You just don’t get fancy iMessage features if you’re on Android.
“Fancy” features like group chats, or sending pictures that don’t look like ass?
When every single alternative (other than RCS, ironically enough) just plain works. People just text, send each other pictures, participate in group chats, and it all just works, no matter the phone, computer, whatever, there are even just plain websites for many services.
You get all those features, just not with iPhone snobs who refuse to use acting but iMessage.
Meta’s practices also collected protected data like race, religion, and sexual orientation. Meta disputed that it needed explicit consent, arguing that agreeing to terms of service was enough, but courts rejected this.
Oh please let this be the beginning of a global backlash against corporate EULA’s and the start of a path towards a few well understood EULA’s, similar to how we have a few well understood FOSS licenses.
Cool
Hwip
[chuckles evilly in Norwegian]
Høh høh
Well yes. Unfortunately that just reminds me of Beavis and Butthead so it’s not really evil enough.
This is awesome but I don’t really understand.
The purported issue is that they don’t have explicit consent for some data points. They apparently responded by saying they were going to charge a subscription.
Why wouldn’t they just get consent? I’m sure most fb users will just agree to anything put in front of them.
Facebook collects data from various sites and doesn’t care if you are a user or not.
How can you get a consent from someone who doesn’t even know facebook collects data from?
This is the funny thing. You don’t. It has to be informed consent. ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪
Which makes Meta’s entire business illegal in the EU, thus the lawsuits and bans
It’s about the part where they can’t hide the data collection in the terms and conditions of the site. You have to have a separate clear consent step for them to collect the data.
However, regulators have questioned whether the prices are too high to give users a real choice.
I bet there is something like what of they don’t consent? Then they have the choice to pay the subscription instead of being denied access to the site and therefore not make any money for Meta.
And Google? And Alphabet?
And Amazon. Oh, and nowadays Microsoft has decided to join the club too.
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Oh, that’s a good point. I just thought that I have about 200 accounts and passwords, because the internet hates me.
Pretty much, Google is the targeted ad giant, not Facebook.
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Basically all of them. Lemmy etc. are basically 90%+ techies, Facebook is pretty much going to be widely hated here no matter where you go.
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If you want a specific anti-facebook thing, as others mentioned, you can just make one. It’s still all over every tech-related community, though - this thread being one example.
I think it’s safe to say that lemmy as a whole is just a giant anti-[INSERT BIG TECH SHIT HERE] organization.
*disorganisation :D
That’s just called Lemmy
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Probably not- in these days of Lemmy the way is if you don’t see it, make it! :)
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Is there a gay-friendly neighborhood in San Francisco?
I will only believe it when I see it. It has been a few years since the EU is threatening a ban and meta threatening to leave the EU, so far none has committed any action.
They’re already starting their paid ad-free $10 a month tiers for Europe only. They’ll stop showing advertising to underage people “for now”. They’re going to flood Europe with garbage ads and maximize subscribers that way.
Seems to be working for YouTube!
I can’t fathom people willing to pay $10 for Facebook and twitter .
I know it’s a week-old thread, but I just received the notification on the Instagram app about the subscription and I have a few thoughts. First of all, here it’s actually 12 euros. As a relatively light user - I check Instagram maybe once or twice a day and FB once a week or every two weeks, just to keep in contact with people I don’t text -, that’s a lot of money to give to Meta for those services. I’m all for paying to have content without the tracking and the ads, but not 12 euros unfortunately. Which is, I guess, why they chose such a high price.
I’d just like to thank the EU for having the data privacy laws that I suspect most Americans want but can’t have because of the fact our country is owned by corporations
Must be nice living in countries where the government works for humans instead of corporations.
Oh, no, boo hoo!
Lmao
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It’s still better than having data brokers monitor every single thing you do.