The left is getting killed on the trans sports issue (which I believe is a completely manufactured issue) because we haven’t talked about it enough to iron out a reasonable position.
The general pop is not accepting of trans people in professional sports. I don’t think that will change anytime soon but trans people playing school sports is far more accepted and I think its a much more convincing to fight on the issue of trans people participating in school sports for fun and social reasons. It draws away from the shit narrative that trans people are trying to compete at the highest level and I don’t think anyone can reasonably argue against it since casual sport commonly mixes gender.
That’s the problem with platforms that offshoot for free speech reasons.
I want to be able to say eat the rich and luigi magione was right.
Others want to spout hate in all forms.
Then people begin to argue these are the save of you should tolerate intolerance. Which you should never do
They wanted to be Reddit again and boy are they still trying to do that.
We should all block Lemmy.world unless they get their act together.
It’s such a cesspool over there
I didn’t realize there was much of a culture difference between the instances. Is this written down anywhere?
Yeah, I’m new-ish and I don’t yet know the various instance “cultures.” Hopefully picking blahaj wasn’t a mistake, lol.
Not really. And that’s because anybody who would write it down recognizes that they’re going to get piled on.
serious sports discussion here, so please leave any politics or phobias at the door.
i could not care less about how people identify and what they do in their time. but how are you going to create a level playing field in sports?
this guy did it to show the gaping loopholes, which trans and self identification provided back then: https://nypost.com/2023/03/30/male-powerlifter-enters-womens-event-breaks-record/ (no idea what the rules are today). and yes, you could probably filter out the guys, which identified male 5 mins before the contest.
but this is an issue with any sports, not only pure strength. i was couching floorball for a while. when we did not get enough ppl for trainings, the womens and mens club would train together. while the women where better (technique and higher league) playing a match women against men, would almost never end up with the women winning. floorball is considered contactless. but the strength difference would still create a big gap.
one proposed solution was to separate sports into high or low testosterone instead of male or female. i would be afraid of that just devolving into another doping war in the higher leagues. how do you guys think about sending woman with abnormally high testosterone to a mostly male team and vice versa? me personally would not mind, but the additional logistics could prove difficult for hobby or semi-professional organisations.
so please leave any politics
You say, as you wade in to a topic that only exists for political reasons, and is actively driven and sustained entirely for political reasons
Trans-women are women who represent 0.2% of the population whom many are taking estrogen. You don’t care about regulating those with natural physical advantages in sports just with those who were often excluded from society as you want to keep hurting people for no reason.
Spoiler: they won’t.
Lemmy.world is a a full on trash bag when it comes to those sorts of comments. And some people tried to tell me I was overreacting or lying about it (in specific reference to the 196 push that they failed at, yet still post to to try and garner new subs).
