cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/27020868
Summary
Minnesota Republican state Sen. Justin Eichorn, who introduced a bill classifying “Trump Derangement Syndrome” as a mental illness, was arrested for allegedly soliciting sex from a minor.
Police say Eichorn believed he was meeting a 16-year-old girl but was actually texting undercover officers. His arrest came just a day after he and four other Republican senators introduced the controversial bill.
Eichorn, who is married with four children, was booked into jail and will be transferred to the Hennepin County Adult Detention Center.
After all that’s happened do you honestly think legality is an obstacle to these people?
I’m failing to see a mechanism where a Federal Pardon for State charges would result in Tim Walz letting this guy out of prison. What are they going to do? Send the US Military over and attack the place?
What you are describing is completely absurd. It’s beyond hyperbole.
Trump will say he’s pardoned, sign a paper, and he will be released. He doesn’t care about mechanisms because that’s for someone else to worry about.
Trump will say he’s pardoned, sign a paper, and then the guy won’t be released because Trump isn’t in charge of Hennepin County Adult Detention Center.
He doesn’t need to be. He’s in charge of enough to make problems for them if they don’t comply. What makes you think the person in charge of a prison wouldn’t be eager to please Trump in the first place?
Because they can be immediately fired by their boss Gov. Tim Walz, former running mate of Kamala Harris.
I understand the American System is confusing at the best of times and that right now is not the best of times but you’re talking straight up nonsense. It isn’t possible.
There are a lot of things happening right now that a younger-me would have thought was “straight up nonsense” and “impossible.”
I want to believe that proper protocol will be followed, but I also don’t believe there are limits to what the current GOP would try.
This isn’t a matter of “following the proper protocol” it’s that there is NO protocol. The action is specifically prohibited by law and is enforceable by a political enemy of President Trump. People comment about “A court has no ability to enforce it’s decisions.” but in this case it’s a STATE and they DO have the ability to enforce a decision.
Weren’t you just arguing that there is protocol that would prevent Trump from overreaching his authority?
That’s the “protocol” I’m hoping will be followed - the legal framework that would prevent such fuckery.
At the same time, I expect that those currently in charge of the U.S. see the law not as a barrier, but as an inconvenience.
Are you kidding? They could spin it as “Saving a true patriot from the woke mob” and Trump would put him in charge of a federal prison. Any TDS cases in that prisons’ admin would jump at the chance to demonstrate loyalty to their emperor.
I’m not confused about the system. I believe you completely about all these checks and balances, and I had no doubt about their existence before you explained them.
What I don’t believe is that any of it will stop him from doing whatever he wants. As evidenced by the events of the past two months. Did Kathy Hochul stop him from dropping Eric Adams corruption charges (yes, I know they were federal)? Did she instruct her AG to file state charges? Did she do anything at all to replace or remove Adams? What makes you think Walz would be any different?
This isn’t a “checks and balances” thing. The Governor of Minnesota has the authority to order actual military firepower, like tanks and helicopters, to maintain order at the facility.
Hochul is a corrupt hack, Walz is not.
Tim Walz is not going to mobilize the military to stop one pedophile politician from getting released. Didn’t you just criticize my arguments for being unrealistic? I provided a real, contemporary example of what I’m arguing about. All you’ve done is project some noble fantasy onto a governor you probably had no idea existed until he became Harris’ running mate.
It doesn’t work like that. The only way he gets out is if the Governor of Minnesota orders it and Gov. Tim Walz wouldn’t.
There ISN’T a mechanism, it simply doesn’t exist. Trump can write the pardon if he wants but it would be meaningless. It wouldn’t remove the conviction, wouldn’t end his sentence, and wouldn’t effect his release.
It’d be like Germany issuing a pardon for someone convicted of a crime in Spain and trying to order them released. They can issue the pardon and make the order but there’s absolutely no way to enforce it short of direct military action.
You can spout all this shit about rules and laws and that would really be a great argument if either of those things made any bit of difference to Donald Trump. These things only matter if someone enforces them. He basically committed high treason by attempting to coup the government and he was not only allowed to remain free, he became the president again. He’s openly broken the law, blatantly violated the constitution and completely ignored several court orders. The question isn’t “how will he do that” its “how will you stop him”.
Unless Tim Walz plants his ass in that prison and guards the release button personally, I don’t really see him presenting much of a problem.
The State of Minnesota has its own force capabilities. Tim Walz could ring the facility with State Guard, order tanks to sit in the parking lot, and have combat helicopters flying over the facility 24x7. THAT is how its stopped. The State of Minnesota isn’t a Court, it actually has the ability to enforce things using military firepower.
People like you really aren’t worth talking too. Sure bub, a Governor isn’t much a problem. Uh huh.
You are delusional if you think that there’s any chance Walz would escalate things to military resistance against the federal government. I would love it if he did, but that’s just a complete fantasy.