I’m not the guy you responded to, but I have a similar concern…not with institutional gender affirming care, I don’t know enough about that to comment on it. My concern is with the social aspect, especially with kids. There’s no such thing as a feminine man anymore; now if you’re anything less than hypermasculine there’s pressure to announce yourself as trans. It’s silly, and it’s a fad, and I hope (and assume) our medical/therapy professionals are willing and able to see past it.
Today’s younger generation is way more accepting of differences than any previous generation I’ve seen, and I’m Gen X.
Today’s teenagers have friends who are gay, straight, trans, questioning, masculine, feminine, asexual, etc. and they’re totally cool with it. They’re like, you be you.
There’s, like, 2 billion kids in the world, so I’m sure it depends on which kids you know. I’m not plugged into the broader cultural scene for kids nowadays, and I don’t have any of my own, so this is all from anecdoes from my nieces/nephews/friends’ kids/random teenagers on reddit
All of which to say, what I’ve heard about the peer pressure may not be the norm. I hope it’s not.
In other words, you didn’t actually do any real research—you made a bunch of assumptions based on what someone you know said and some propaganda you heard floating around. And it is very clear that is the case.
If you have not investigated the matter then you should not speak because whatever you have to say of it will be nothing more than babble. Maybe let us transgender folk speak to our experience. There’s plenty of feminine men out there. There’s a whole aesthetics for that particular flavor of queer, most most famously femboy. There are also demi-sexualities where someone not quite one or the other such as demiboys.
Maybe sit down and take the time to learn about things instead of having a knee-jerk opinion on the matter. There’s a lot to parse and if you think it is too much, that’s on you. For us, we know what we are and most of us have known for most of our lives. I didn’t transition until I was 35, but I knew what I was when I 4 or 5. I just didn’t have any way of expressing it and understood if I did I would be either in trouble or in danger. Contrary to popular opinion, children can and do pick up on those subtexts. No one transitions out of peer pressure—if anything the pressure is on us to not transition. That’s true regardless of age and the fact you don’t understand this shows you haven’t done any research.
What you’ve said doesn’t really seem to me to be true in the slightest. There are many, many role models of feminine men around (F1nnst3r for a very obvious example), and the nuances of gender expression allow this so much more than in the past. We have clear conceptual differences between feminine men, non binary people, and trans women, and people are more than allowed to fit into any category they like (or build their own!).
This isn’t the divide between the Catholic and Protestant church.
Socially, strict gender roles are losing relevance. A well groomed man with long hair is just that. Nobody thinks it means he wants to be a woman unless they harbor the misogynistic opinion that women are defined by long hair.
I’m not the guy you responded to, but I have a similar concern…not with institutional gender affirming care, I don’t know enough about that to comment on it. My concern is with the social aspect, especially with kids. There’s no such thing as a feminine man anymore; now if you’re anything less than hypermasculine there’s pressure to announce yourself as trans. It’s silly, and it’s a fad, and I hope (and assume) our medical/therapy professionals are willing and able to see past it.
Wow, not my experience at all.
Today’s younger generation is way more accepting of differences than any previous generation I’ve seen, and I’m Gen X.
Today’s teenagers have friends who are gay, straight, trans, questioning, masculine, feminine, asexual, etc. and they’re totally cool with it. They’re like, you be you.
Gives me hope for the future.
There’s, like, 2 billion kids in the world, so I’m sure it depends on which kids you know. I’m not plugged into the broader cultural scene for kids nowadays, and I don’t have any of my own, so this is all from anecdoes from my nieces/nephews/friends’ kids/random teenagers on reddit
All of which to say, what I’ve heard about the peer pressure may not be the norm. I hope it’s not.
In other words, you didn’t actually do any real research—you made a bunch of assumptions based on what someone you know said and some propaganda you heard floating around. And it is very clear that is the case.
If you have not investigated the matter then you should not speak because whatever you have to say of it will be nothing more than babble. Maybe let us transgender folk speak to our experience. There’s plenty of feminine men out there. There’s a whole aesthetics for that particular flavor of queer, most most famously femboy. There are also demi-sexualities where someone not quite one or the other such as demiboys.
Maybe sit down and take the time to learn about things instead of having a knee-jerk opinion on the matter. There’s a lot to parse and if you think it is too much, that’s on you. For us, we know what we are and most of us have known for most of our lives. I didn’t transition until I was 35, but I knew what I was when I 4 or 5. I just didn’t have any way of expressing it and understood if I did I would be either in trouble or in danger. Contrary to popular opinion, children can and do pick up on those subtexts. No one transitions out of peer pressure—if anything the pressure is on us to not transition. That’s true regardless of age and the fact you don’t understand this shows you haven’t done any research.
What you’ve said doesn’t really seem to me to be true in the slightest. There are many, many role models of feminine men around (F1nnst3r for a very obvious example), and the nuances of gender expression allow this so much more than in the past. We have clear conceptual differences between feminine men, non binary people, and trans women, and people are more than allowed to fit into any category they like (or build their own!).
This isn’t the divide between the Catholic and Protestant church.
Socially, strict gender roles are losing relevance. A well groomed man with long hair is just that. Nobody thinks it means he wants to be a woman unless they harbor the misogynistic opinion that women are defined by long hair.
Hi, do you have a workshop to just make up random shit and convince yourself it’s real? Could be fun for parties
Or, best not to project your insecurities onto others who don’t have them
Hello,
LOL
Sincerely,
Everyone.
Yes, we’re all laughing at you
WTF are you talking about?
Hot take: there was never any such thing as feminine men. AMAB enbies always secretly wish they were women, but don’t believe they can be.
Q: what’s the difference between a femboy and a trans woman?
A: about 2 years
Edit: they hated her because she told them the truth 😌
Maybe you should just support people’s gender identity without telling them what they should feel.
That’s the zoomiest of zoomer takes rofl
I’m a wise elder who has seen the femboy cope fail many times now.
“bisexuals are just gay men who haven’t realized it” vibes
4chan brainwormed