• SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today
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    11 months ago

    Both sides should avoid this trap. Lazy and stupid and makes for bad faith debates absent of substance. There are plenty of people on both the left and the right who don’t think for themselves. but whether a person regurgitates a talking point, or comes up with an original idea, has no bearing on the merit of that talking point or idea.

    Both sides have valid issues in complaints. Both sides have crappy issues and complaints. Neither side is perfect. Both sides need to realize that they themselves are not perfect.

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      11 months ago

      I will not yield an inch further away from safe, accessible, affordable, legal abortions for all women for any reason at any time. We have no common ground to argue.

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        11 months ago

        This is the correct stance. This is not a both sides issue. Anyone who doesn’t support the right to safe, accessible, affordable, and legal abortions is a giant piece of shit and isn’t even remotely near the morally correct position.

        We already compromised with Roe and the zealots kept pushing. We should be done compromising with people that want to bring society backwards.

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        11 months ago

        Nor should you. I hope people aren’t interpreting my comment as suggesting anything other than this. I was not talking about any issue at all, I was simply talking about logical fallacies both sides get into when arguing their respective positions.

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      11 months ago

      Like nearly every single “both sides” argument in all of online history, this one fulfills one of these two roles:

      • Detract from something good about Democrats
      • Deflect from something shitty about Republicans

      You’ll nearly never see a “both sides” argument in the wild that does one of these things:

      • Detract from something good about Republicans
      • Deflect from something shitty about Democrats

      You may draw your own conclusions from that, gentle reader.

      Edit: Removed the hyperbole.

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      11 months ago

      The only thing worse than a right winger is those who minimize the damage wrought by right wingers.