A dagger does d4 damage. A dagger is not a small knife, it’s like 8 inches of blade. Compared to that, a human bite should be like a d2 on the high side.
The stronger muscles of a human body is the one of their jaw. A bite can do serious damage. And when you dagger will cut or stab, your bite will ripe away skin and flesh.
If you bite an artery even a human can kill something. You can bite of a finger if you want to.
The problem is people only think of biting in " I chomp and then I let go" instead of " I bite and do not let go but pull bake so I tear that chunk of the person off".
What are you going to do? Leave them at the inn? You can absolutely bring them with you and use them as the opportunity arises. Just because it’s a knife fight and you have a knife doesn’t mean you can only use the knife…
The thing with human mouths, though, is that they’re gross. A dagger will fuck you up, but a mouth may hurt at the time, and then later it’s ✨BACTERIA TIME✨. I think maybe they can get a little bonus for that.
2d4+2 is the bite attack of a wolf, not a dog, a dog bite is way lower that the one of a wolf. Also, I guess I could have wrote better my proposed human bite damage as max(1d4-2, 0) that gives a average of 0.75.
I don’t think 7 vs 0.75 is accurate. A single wolf bite would fuck you up, to be sure. But this implies that a human bite is about as dangerous as a mousetrap… which, let’s be honest, is virtually nothing. Humans are capable of biting through not only skin and muscle, but to the bone, and even through the bone in certain cases.
And that is the bite of a commoner, you think a lvl 20 barbarians bite wouldn’t go straight through most bone?
Average peasant has 4 hp.
Max average strike of a dagger does 4 damage. Even if it doesn’t strike a vital area, if you get a full, solid, clean hit with that blade, they dead.
If you crit, i.e. hit a vital spot. They definitely dead and the 8inch blade might even take out a tougher boy.
Damage is supposed to imply how effective the strike is on a hit. A 1 is a decent slice or puncture. Possible stitches, not guaranteed. 2 damage? That’s a good shank. Stitches recommended, gonna need some medical attention, picture getting stabbed in the hand or getting a slice across the arm or leg. 3 damage? That person is WOUNDED they won’t keep fighting if it isn’t life or death picture a meaty stab to the bicep or shoulder or side, nowhere critical, but you know you can’t take another hit. And 4 is death.
A dagger does d4 damage. A dagger is not a small knife, it’s like 8 inches of blade. Compared to that, a human bite should be like a d2 on the high side.
The stronger muscles of a human body is the one of their jaw. A bite can do serious damage. And when you dagger will cut or stab, your bite will ripe away skin and flesh.
Plus, human bites can carry a lot of bacteria and whatnot, so arguably some of that damage should be poison or necrosis damage.
Yeah, like a week later…
You sound like someone who hasn’t been bit.
Honestly it’s all an abstraction anyway but I absolutely would not bring my chompers to a knife fight.
That’s more about range though, isn’t it?
I’m not sure, I think the stabber will do more harm per second than the chomper.
If you bite an artery even a human can kill something. You can bite of a finger if you want to. The problem is people only think of biting in " I chomp and then I let go" instead of " I bite and do not let go but pull bake so I tear that chunk of the person off".
Have fun getting to that artery. If someone is not holding still for you it’s extremely lucky to do that.
Especially while getting stabbed.
Hell yeah.
What are you going to do? Leave them at the inn? You can absolutely bring them with you and use them as the opportunity arises. Just because it’s a knife fight and you have a knife doesn’t mean you can only use the knife…
That’s very true, although I’d love to play the kind of character who pulls their teeth out when they don’t think they’ll be needing them.
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The thing with human mouths, though, is that they’re gross. A dagger will fuck you up, but a mouth may hurt at the time, and then later it’s ✨BACTERIA TIME✨. I think maybe they can get a little bonus for that.
+1 toxic damage.
How much is a bite attack from a dog or a wolf? A human bite would be at most half the bite of a dog.
2d4+2
A human bite should be 1d4-2 then imo
2d4+2 average damage is (2+8)/2 + 2 = 7 damage
You say a human bite should be at most half that
1d4 - 2 is an average of (1+4)/2 - 2= 0.5 damage
Isn’t that way too low?
2d4+2 is the bite attack of a wolf, not a dog, a dog bite is way lower that the one of a wolf. Also, I guess I could have wrote better my proposed human bite damage as max(1d4-2, 0) that gives a average of 0.75.
I don’t think 7 vs 0.75 is accurate. A single wolf bite would fuck you up, to be sure. But this implies that a human bite is about as dangerous as a mousetrap… which, let’s be honest, is virtually nothing. Humans are capable of biting through not only skin and muscle, but to the bone, and even through the bone in certain cases.
And that is the bite of a commoner, you think a lvl 20 barbarians bite wouldn’t go straight through most bone?
meanwhile monks are out here dropping d10 dragontail kicks to the chest
Average peasant has 4 hp. Max average strike of a dagger does 4 damage. Even if it doesn’t strike a vital area, if you get a full, solid, clean hit with that blade, they dead.
If you crit, i.e. hit a vital spot. They definitely dead and the 8inch blade might even take out a tougher boy.
Damage is supposed to imply how effective the strike is on a hit. A 1 is a decent slice or puncture. Possible stitches, not guaranteed. 2 damage? That’s a good shank. Stitches recommended, gonna need some medical attention, picture getting stabbed in the hand or getting a slice across the arm or leg. 3 damage? That person is WOUNDED they won’t keep fighting if it isn’t life or death picture a meaty stab to the bicep or shoulder or side, nowhere critical, but you know you can’t take another hit. And 4 is death.