• ikka@lemmy.sdf.org
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    The thing that is immediately solvable is to go meet people on proprietary platforms.

    We are communicating on Lemmy… it seems possible to meet people off proprietary platforms.

    Which they are avoiding for ethical reasons. It is not possible to be perfectly ethical and happy.

    This feels a bit like telling a vegetarian to go eat a steak.

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      We are communicating on Lemmy. It is possible to meet people far far away and not really form real-life interactions with people. How many people in your “I’d travel to hang with” area is on Lemmy though?

      I’m not telling a vegetarian to eat a steak though. I’m telling a vegetarian to eat protein and iron because they feel sick because they don’t have these key things in their diet. However you get the protein and iron is whatever but clearly the way they’ve been trying isn’t working. Even the Lemmy software isn’t made by ethical people in my book. https://beehaw.org/post/524300 is a great take on why I picked BeeHaw in the first place. It’s a long read so here is a select quote:

      The world has a colonialist history, rife with violence and immoral behavior. Unless you retreat the woods and recreate technologies yourself from scratch, it’s impossible to live in a modern society without benefiting from technology built on countless dead bodies in history.

      There is no perfectly ethical way to use technology. There is no perfectly ethical way to order flowers. The Good Place makes a good and entertaining argument: https://youtu.be/R8m_5HDZF7w?t=94 The answer of just “do the research and buy another tomato” doesn’t work because then you waste literally all of your life researching or potentially going into the woods and never using anything anyone else created again because they could eventually be unethical people. GNU’s founder defended pedophilia openly. Linux’s founder has created and perpetuated toxic work environments. No consumption is perfectly ethical. Where you draw the line is arbitrary.