Just because time is relative does not mean time is subjective. Time is a fundamental objective part of reality, and time and distance relativity is probably less weird than you think it is. There …
I do not agree that 2 objects can both have time flow rates faster or slower than the other. That is impossible, so it is really optics.
Great! I’m glad we found your core mistaken belief and this conversation has been productive! The 2 objects do indeed each have time flow rates faster than the other. As to how that impossible paradox is resolved they teach that in a special relativity class or textbook. If you don’t believe me you could post in ask science with “Is special relativity time dilation real or just optics?” and others will confirm.
The 2 objects do indeed each have time flow rates faster than the other.
They only have the perspective of having a faster time flow rate. If both objects were magically transported together thru a wormhole, their clocks would show the same elapsed time. It would be logically impossible for each clock to be ahead of the other clock. The analogy that explains this is that if 2 people walk away from each other, they both look smaller to each other. But we know that is just optics. They are really the same size as always.
You are talking about symetrical time dilation. Symetrical time dilation does not cause differential aging. I am talking about the 2 types of time dilation, both non symetrical, that cause differential aging. Those 2 types of time dilation are (1) gravitational time dilation, and (2) time dilation due to acceleration (which resolves the twin paradox). Symetrical time dilation can be completely ignored in calculating your time flow rate as a percent of the maximum, because it does not cause differential aging. Symetrical time dilation is simply a way to track a difference in perspectives.
If you don’t believe me you could post in ask science with “Is special relativity time dilation real or just optics?” and others will confirm.
Yes symetrical time dilation is “real” in the sense that it has been defined to be one of the various types of time dilation. But the symetrical time dilation that you are talking about does not cause differential aging as does time dilation caused by acceleration and gravity fields. It is well known that symetrical time dilation does not cause differential aging. It is actually impossible for symetrical time dilation to cause differential aging, because then it wouldn’t be symetrical.
[Gravitational or else called acceleration time dilation, has actual effects on clocks since it slows down matter vibrations and thus time evolution of matter and therefore tick rates on clocks…Kinematic time dilation or else named constant velocity time dilation is a different phenomenon. It is an apparent time dilation effect]
Great! I’m glad we found your core mistaken belief and this conversation has been productive! The 2 objects do indeed each have time flow rates faster than the other. As to how that impossible paradox is resolved they teach that in a special relativity class or textbook. If you don’t believe me you could post in ask science with “Is special relativity time dilation real or just optics?” and others will confirm.
They only have the perspective of having a faster time flow rate. If both objects were magically transported together thru a wormhole, their clocks would show the same elapsed time. It would be logically impossible for each clock to be ahead of the other clock. The analogy that explains this is that if 2 people walk away from each other, they both look smaller to each other. But we know that is just optics. They are really the same size as always.
You are talking about symetrical time dilation. Symetrical time dilation does not cause differential aging. I am talking about the 2 types of time dilation, both non symetrical, that cause differential aging. Those 2 types of time dilation are (1) gravitational time dilation, and (2) time dilation due to acceleration (which resolves the twin paradox). Symetrical time dilation can be completely ignored in calculating your time flow rate as a percent of the maximum, because it does not cause differential aging. Symetrical time dilation is simply a way to track a difference in perspectives.
Yes symetrical time dilation is “real” in the sense that it has been defined to be one of the various types of time dilation. But the symetrical time dilation that you are talking about does not cause differential aging as does time dilation caused by acceleration and gravity fields. It is well known that symetrical time dilation does not cause differential aging. It is actually impossible for symetrical time dilation to cause differential aging, because then it wouldn’t be symetrical.
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/53009/is-time-dilation-an-illusion#:~:text=It has been confirmed by,that time dilation is real.
[Gravitational or else called acceleration time dilation, has actual effects on clocks since it slows down matter vibrations and thus time evolution of matter and therefore tick rates on clocks…Kinematic time dilation or else named constant velocity time dilation is a different phenomenon. It is an apparent time dilation effect]