• be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    I’m a liberal and I definitely think we need tighter restrictions on guns in the U.S., but people today seem to have forgotten that we’ve had essentially the same gun laws for forever

    Sure but the same party that works so hard against increased legislation for gun control gutted our mental health infrastructure and votes against funding and rebuilding it at every opportunity. They aren’t interested in solving either end of the problem.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_Health_Systems_Act_of_1980

    https://sociology.org/content/vol003.004/thomas.html

    This last one is a ddg search - you can just pick which article you want to read about Republicans voting against mental health funding.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=republicans+vote+against+mental+health+funding

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      10 months ago

      You’re missing my point. Mental health issues aren’t the primary problem when it comes to firearm violence and deaths. Republican resistance to laws that attempt to address mental health issues deserves pointing out, but not so much in this context, because that’s not the main issue at hand. Liberals can be commended for attempting to do something about the problem more than Republicans are, but what I’ve seen of their views on the topic indicates to me that they too are missing the point. The problem isn’t guns or severe psychiatric problems; there’s a cultural element that no one (including Democrats, for some reason) aren’t willing to address. Until we identify and focus on the actual problem, no progress will be made, because we’ll just continue to fight about stuff that isn’t that relevant.

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        10 months ago

        You’re missing my point.

        Sorry, and thanks for claifying.

        there’s a cultural element that no one (including Democrats, for some reason) aren’t willing to address.

        Is that cultural problem something other than “a good chunk of gun owners fetishize their guns and the 2A itself to the point where preserving those things matters much more to them than the fact that we’ve now traumatized a generation of kids with active shooter drills, and death by guns has become the top killer of children” - because I can certainly agree that this is a cultural problem, but can’t begin to imagine what we’d do about it that doesn’t involve changes to our gun laws.

        Clearly empathy and logic hold no sway with folks who feel that way sooo…

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        10 months ago

        there’s a cultural element

        Yup, it’s the sick concept of firearms culture, where holding a weapon becomes a character trait and the right to military arms is somehow necessary to protect one’s home. It’s fucking deranged.