What stopped working:

  • GzDoom (native, black screen after choosing .wad)
  • Orcs Must Die 1 & 2 (proton, either doesn’t launch at all, or launches with severe graphical issues such as the menu and buttons missing or the whole thing being pink and green)
  • serious sam tfe, tse; painkiller black (wine via either bottles or pol, extreme speedup every 5 seconds)
  • luxor 3 (bottles, crashes on launch)
  • hotline miami 2 (proton, crash on launch)
  • lego indy 2 (bottles, sound effects at 150% loudness)

most of these worked previously, but seemingly broke out of nowhere, unless driver or kernel updates wrecked thwm, but if that is the case i haven’t the faintest clue on how to troubleshoot that besides trying every previous kernel i can still download.

Device: Legion 5-15, 16gb ram, radeon 5 4600, nvidia rtx 3060 mobile, newest version of mint and newest LTS kernel. LUKS partition. I’ll add more info when i get home.

So, tl;dr:

  • how to troubleshoot proton games
  • how to troubleshoot wine games in bottles and pol
  • how to prevent games breaking out of nowhere in the future
  • signor@lemmy.world
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    Have you rebooted your system or tried selecting a previous kernel version upon boot to see if the problem remains?

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      8 months ago

      GZDoom and Orcs Must Die 1 work now, everything else still the same

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    Thanks for the great and detailled report. Here’s an upvote for you :)

    Maybe you can try another prefix, like using Wine/ Proton 7.x instead of the current 8.x. Or try the GE-versions.

    That’s what helped me the most so far, but I didn’t have many issues by now.

    Also, those glitches sound like a faulty GPU or driver. Maybe try a live USB and launch a game from that with another distro like Fedora?

    Have you checked out ProtonDB if the games work OOTB or require some tweaks?

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      Thx.

      Changing prefixes either does nothing, or makes it worse which would be the case for the ones that do start.

      Probably not a GPU issue, as these glitches only occurvin the listed games.

      Regarding protondb (an winedb too i guess) the games are, at worst, silver rated.

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    8 months ago

    I think mint has timeshift enabled by default. Try going back to when the games worked and figure out what change caused the gamss to break?

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    Instead of guessing, looking at the log might help. Launch the game with PROTON_LOG=1 %command% set in “Set Launch Options” setting in the game properties. The log file will appear on your home directory.

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      Magica is claiming an issue with VCRedist, Orcs Must Die 2 doesn’t close on its own so no log, Serious sams and painkiller don’t show any problems. The rest isn’t using proton.

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        It’s a long shot, but sometimes when I have issues with proton which I can’t figure out, switching from Wayland to X11 (or vice versa) magically fixed it.

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    8 months ago

    Can you pinpoint what you did to your system before? Did you do a system update? Did you move game files around? Did you add any repositories trying to install something that also updated other dependencies, or alike?

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      At most i updated my system and kernel, didn’t fiddle with anything else

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        I’m not familiar with mint, but maybe you can see whether you can easily downgrade to the previous version you had. And hold off on the updates until a fix is published for the broken stuff.

        But before that, take a look at the mint communities and see whether it’s a known issue and whether there is a manual intervention needed to fix it. Something like “newest update broke some proton games”, etc.

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    How do you handle which GPU is used in which game? I would guess you have an AMD iGPU, and a Nvidia GPU for games, right? Maybe something along those lines got updated?

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      That’s correct, but i mostly let the laptop handle it, unless i know for a fact that a game needs/doesn’t need the N GPU, in which case i either manually switch it over or (and this is the case for wine apps through bottles) i configure the program to only use the iGPU

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        What are you using to switch the GPU? Have you tried alternatives? EnvyControl for example.

        Also, have you checked if you’re using ONLY Radeon-Vulkan for the AMDGPU, and not AMDVLK also?

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          No clue, since mint cinnamon (afaik) doesn’t have a GUI for managing gpu drivers i don’t know how to approach it.

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    Did you move files to an NTFS shared drive? Proton + ntfs is flaky as all hell in my experience, and the problems are impossible to troubleshoot.