• AWildMimicAppears@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    U.S. vehicle fuel efficiency standards administered by NHTSA have encouraged automakers to build larger vehicles. The bigger the vehicle, the lower the fuel efficiency target it has to meet.

    That’s some monkeys paw type of shit law

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      Yeah preverse incentives. When doing the wrong thing makes the most sense for the individual. Happens often in tragedy of the commons situations.

      If you hit a pedestrian it is better for you that they die. If you find an endangered animal on your land it is better for you to kill it. If you have a child with someone who makes minimum wage it is better for you to divorce.

      Maybe it is too much to expect but for things like this, when public policy experts came up with a standard instead of just inheriting a situation, that they plan for these things in advance. Spend a few moments and look at where the incentives are before just hammering a new policy into place.

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        If you hit a pedestrian it is better for you that they die

        Uh maybe in China. I would not say that in the United States. Manslaughter is a serious charge.

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          You aren’t factoring in civil suits. Someone dead, their family can only get so much. Someone crippled can just keep going after you and might have to as they go into greater and greater levels of debt. What would you do if suddenly your income went down to about 14k USD a year and with each passing day the chances of you returning to work diminished, wouldn’t you be desperate enough to try to win some money from the person who did this to you? Wouldn’t you go along with any shyster lawyer who promised results?

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      Recently bought a new diesel silverado 3500 for my ranch. It’s enormous, I’m glad I didn’t get the dually option as it’s hard enough to drive in the city. Most of its job however is pulling trailers around.

      That said, on highway if I drive the speed limit and take it easy I can get 9L/100km. It’s unreal that such a huge truck will get almost the same economy as our KIA SUV.

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        I didn’t think that sounded right so I looked it up; Chevrolet themselves say it’s between 11 and 12 litres/100km

        I don’t know what Kia you have, but their diesel Sorento SUV averages 6-7 litres/100km, nearly half what your tiny-penis truck uses

        Funny also that people pull trailers in every country in the world using much smaller trucks without a problem

        You don’t need that truck, same way as nobody else on the planet, no matter what their profession, needs it

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          You don’t need that truck, same way as nobody else on the planet, no matter what their profession, needs it

          Please stop this bullshit. There are most certainly reasons to own a truck that can haul big things. Including in Europe. It’s just that 90% of the trucks you see in a Costco parking lot don’t need to be that way.

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      That’s Regulatory Capture. Laws made by and for the industry they’re supposed to regulate.

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    The US public has repeatedly demonstrated that it would rather die than make even minor adjustments in their lives. So don’t expect anything to get done.

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    I have been thinking about getting some “Child Killer” stickers to start slapping on trucks that are particularly unsafe and huge. I don’t get why in neighborhoods that in all kinds of other ways frowns upon putting kids at risk (no driving fast for example) dumbass men are allowed to own MASSIVE trucks that raise the risk of running a child over by a huge amount and no one shames them.

    Time to start shaming these people more.

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      Go for it! The cost would be pretty inexpensive.

      *Edit It’s funny how the downvoters aren’t okay with a simple sticker, but are okay with two ton vehicles killing more people than usual.

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      Shaming truck owners rather than shaming parents not teaching their kids to not play in streets, sure bud.

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        Isn’t it kind of silly to you that the vast majority of our modern world is exclusively a car zone? All people have now is sidewalks, right next to all the exhaust fumes.

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    I read that as “Tall trucks, SUVs are 45% deadlier to US presidents, study shows”, and was like: how did they do that study?

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    Maybe it’s how they are designed. I’ve sat in a number of them that have ugly blind spots. Back left is a big problem on a lot of them.

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      Cars don’t vote. Pedestrians are the only option, except wheelchair bound people I guess. You’re only not a pedestrian when in your car, but you have to encounter other vehicles on foot before and after being in the car.

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        But people who own cars vote. Pedestrians usually hate all parties and won’t bother to vote. They wont even vote to at least not let the other party win.

        They go for a bike ride or drink kambocha in their bachelor apartment while looking up fall scarfs for men. Then scream racists at everyone after the guy they really hate wins the election. Then they go downtown and let air out of peoples tires and post on r/fuckcars and snicker and jeer with other pedestrians about how they hate car heads