TikTok says it’s not the algorithm, teens are just pro-Palestine — The company denied allegations that it has been promoting pro-Palestine content in an effort to sway American opinion::In a blog post, the company denied allegations that it has been promoting pro-Palestine content in an effort to sway American opinion.

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    8 months ago

    Sure, but who is the “oppressor” and who is the “oppressed” can flip on a dime based on context.

    A lot of oppressed people eventually find themselves to be the oppressor.

    If you take a hard stance joining any side, you are at some point siding with an oppressor.

    I don’t need to describe how horrific and oppressive Nazi Germany and the Holocaust was. But you take a hard stance siding with the Jewish people, you are siding with the oppressor in the Israel-Palestine conflict.

    I don’t need to describe how horrific the situation in Gaza is, but if you take a hard stance siding with Palestine and Hamas executes a bunch of festival goers, you’re siding with the oppressor.

    The only way to be anti-opression (and according to you, a real progressive), is to not take sides but take every situation as it is and support the best possible outcome for everyone.

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      8 months ago

      Israel doesn’t represent every Jew that ever lived around the world.

      Yes I support the Warsaw uprising.

      Yes I support the dismantlement of apartheid states.

      These are not conflicting stances.

      If the oppressed become an oppressor my stance can change on them. Not taking the side of the oppressed while they are being oppressed is cowardly and indirectly supports the status quo/the oppressor.

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        8 months ago

        I must have missed history class where the Warsaw Uprising attacked a peace festival.

        Being oppressed is not a license to become a monster yourself. I refuse to condone cold blooded revenge (both Hamas and IDF).

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          8 months ago

          Alright what about warcrimes committed by resistance fighters and the allied forced during ww2?

          If you support those groups even though they have done bad shit then you’re a hypocrite and you should try and understand why you consider them differently.

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            8 months ago

            You’re demanding to view this as “good team” / “bad team”. Fix that first because it stops any hope for peace.

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              8 months ago

              Did looking at Nazis as the bad guys stop peace?

              But no I’m asking if you support critically or uncritically the allies in ww2.

              If you support the allies even though they committed war crimes and you don’t at least uncritically support an oppressed peoples struggle then you are at best a hypocrite and at worst a racist.