I have used linux for a couple of years now and it was one of the most bumpy beginnings (and ends) i ever had with software. There was little a moment that wasnt marred by some kind of problem.

I could write a book on all the problems i had encountered and some of them happen several times, but here are some highlights:

  1. monitors not being all recognized unless its plugged in in a VERY specific order
  2. monitor 2 not having the correct colors
  3. audio not coming out of the correct source, the default source changing when something else that can sue it is plugged in, and also changing after a restart
  4. gaming, proton barely EVER worked, rated gold or platinum on protondb? fuck you it wont even start for you
  5. wine is not much better, lutris also fucked up several times

What broke the camels back today:

I stream, on wednesday my controller stopped working so i couldnt continue to stream, an hour after i stopped? the controller started working again great right? no, today the same shit, controller doesnt work.

Linux continues to have awful roadblocks that make even the most stubborn user (me) switch back to windows for now

But ah i am not dont yet, getting support from other users is about as much a fools errand as it is for windows, just sprinkled in with a lot more brown nosing elitism. And i imagine i will get similar comments here cause lemmy has the same circlejerks reddit has.

As long as linux continues having the most mundane problems with NO solution anywhere it wont get anywhere, if it werent for steamdeck it would still hover around at below 3%

See i like linux, i like how the ui feels and all, but i just cant anymore, i want shit to actually work and linux just cant provide that yet

  • Moira_Mayhem@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I have been trying to transition my every day desktop to Linux for 15 years, they aren’t there yet.

    And now that all the energy is going into making thousands of functionally identical distros there will be zero effort made to actually turn it into a standard desktop OS.

    Add on top of that the fact that EVERY FUCKDAMN LINUX community I have visited is populated by arrogant assholes that think niche expertise gives them the right to harass newbs.

    Peripheral support is shit, even LTS distros drop support for common packages whenever they fucking feel like.

    I’m gonna say it.

    Fuck Linux, and fuck every neckbeard that brought us to this place.

    Linux was supposed to be the cure, was supposed to be the hero, was supposed to show just how good open source software could be.

    Instead it became a vast ocean of user-antagonistic steaming shit.

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    1 year ago

    People in this thread have noted that some systems seem to be Linux-cursed, and I’ve definitely experienced that. Usually it’s a specific piece of hardware that isn’t well supported, or a package or default configuration that has an issue. I’ve had systems that were spinning their heads and spraying pea soup everywhere on OpenSUSE and Debian turn around and behave perfectly on Gentoo (that was 17 years ago, but it doesn’t seem to be a unique experience).

    Regarding the controller, if you’re connecting a PS4 controller via bluetooth I think I had the same problem earlier today, and there’s an issue open on the bluez github about it. I found a post on the Arch bbs with a workaround. TLDR, bluez has had a few issues in the latest builds and reverting all your bluez libraries to 5.68-1 seems to solve it for most people, including me. Unfortunately, this kind of thing crops up occasionally. Everywhere really, but especially on Linux because of how much it relies on community contributions to projects.

    Anyway, I’ve rambled too long. Sounds like you got bit by either a driver issue or a config/package issue. Sorry it happened to you, and sorry it soured you on Linux. If you’re looking for something that “just works” and aren’t getting it with Linux, no reason to beat your head against a wall.

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    1 year ago

    I won’t downvote you for having an unpopular opinion. But I’ll definitely downvote you for putting passive aggressive shit like “can’t speak bad about linux on lemmy now can we” in your post title. Lemmy isn’t a monolith and your experiences with downvote brigading and dogpiling isn’t universal.

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      1 year ago

      Tbh, OP isn’t wrong there. Their language is maybe a bit too harsh, but especially in communities about Linux, they really do crucify you if you say anything bad about Linux.

      And “anything bad” can range from “I got a problem” over “I have an Nvidia GPU” to “I use Ubuntu”. And “I’m frustrated with Linux” will in 100% of cases lead to a lot of downvotes.

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    1 year ago

    You’re not alone, but it’s an unpopular opinion among geeks. I guess most of them are just bored and therefore love to tinker with these kind of issues. I value my time and prefer not to care about my OS doing things for me. I like to have the option to do so, if I need, but I shouldn’t have too. Windows allows that, MacOS doesn’t and Linux allows too much of that, even requires it.

    Another part is the dopamine rush when an issue got solved. Obviously you don’t get any if it works right away.

    My windows 10 is running flawless since 2019 and it didn’t slow down or get bloated. I have disabled a few options but that’s about it. Meanwhile my coworker is fighting bad drivers every day. Not even talking about games that simply don’t work at all.

    I use Linux at work and it’s great when you set up a VM to do one thing and then forget about it.

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      1 year ago

      MacOS does to a degree(!!!) if you open the terminal. It’s Unix compliant, so it’s not even that much of a leap.

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    I’m sorry to hear you had a bad experience with Linux.

    One of the problems with that family of systems is hardware compatibility. Unfortunately if your hardware is not (proven) to be compatible with Linux, you will have problems. Sometimes those problems are of the “my system won’t start” kind. Often, these will be hard to identify and fix.

    Linux is not yet IMO a system for general use. Fixing problems can be long, tedious and require you to read a lot of docs. Yesterday I spent a few hours fixing my package manager, which was recently broken by a system update. Yay.

    I have been using dual boots for years for that very same reason. I am a software developer and Linux makes a lot of sense for my work. But for videogames (and other software not supported on Linux), Windows is my platform of choice.

    The question I would ask myself if I was you is: do you need Linux? If so, I would next check (before anything else) hardware compatibility with some distro that makes sense for you (one that comes shipped with good graphics drivers for example). There are a few distro that work reasonably well for some of those cases. If you don’t need Linux (and you don’t like tinkering with systems) then I would suggest reconsidering your choice of platform.

    Anyway, I wish you all the best settling for a system that works for you and hopefully you can see a quick end to your frustrations.

    Edit: typo

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    1 year ago

    I’m not going to downvote, but I doubt yours is actually an unpopular opinion. It’s just that the minority linux diehards are very vocal.

    The rest of us tried it and moved on, because we have better things to do with our lives, ran into driver issues, and/or don’t enjoy tinkering.

    And why get into an argument with someone who’s enjoying linux? They’re enjoying it and happy with it. No need to shit on their parade.

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    1 year ago

    What distro were you using? I’ve literally never had any problems with controllers, video cards, monitors, or anything that you’ve mentioned. Also, Proton not working is extremely rare. Basically the only thing that prevents games from running perfectly for me is anti-cheat specifically not being supported by the game studio.

    I’ve basically always used Ubuntu which is very stable and the most Windows-like experience imo. Maybe you should give Ubuntu a try if you haven’t?

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    Let’s watch this guy get crucified.

    1. Zero awareness of what linux actually is or means.

    2. No clue what DE they’re using. Talks about “linux UI”.

    3. Clearly some borked distro problems, none of this would happen on any modern user-oriented distro.

    4. Blatantly consumerist attitude towards a FOSS product.

    To the last one, OP, go eat shit. You can pay Apple however much they ask you, and be their happy slave, or you can keep allowing windows to push their big fat aDs down your throat. Nobody has forced you to use linux.

    Oh, and the more of such garbage users like you switch back to windows, the better for us. We’re never planning to run this as s for-profit catering to every Karen’s demands. We just kick Karens out of this bar while continuing enjoying our hard liquor.

    Btw, all of this reads like a copypasta from like a decade ago, which I suspect it might just be.

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      Personal experience:

      • I run a triple monitor setup out of a Linux laptop with Nvidia. E.g. my hardware couldn’t be worse. When I replug monitors all my windows readjust to where they were before unplugging. E.g. I can unplug and plug back in my laptop without needing to rearrange everything. Not to mention the order never mattered.

      • I have color profiles for my monitors and can download them from somewhere too. Or do manual calibration. I don’t bother, colors are fine.

      • I played multiple games on steam on this thing. They run just as good as on windows. Although online games aren’t supported well, so I dual-boot.

      • UI is perfect because I tweaked the living hell out of my gnome and customized colors to my liking. Neither would be possible on windows or mac. But also out of the box experience on gnome is fairly decent. Comparable to win/mac.

      I did not need much effort to get any of that working. Install your distro and go go go.