No one tells you when you buy the car all of the shit you are agreeing to. This needs to be changed.

This car doesn’t let you drive over 80mph. It reads speed limit signs and has a database apparently. The owners manual says it will provide that data to law enforcement.

This is insane. There needs to be awareness of this so people can, at the very least, know to ask before they buy. As it stands no one even knows this shit until they sign the papers and look at the owners manual.

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    8 months ago

    How does Ford benefit from this? Why add this “feature?” … To prevent adolescent teens from driving over 80mph…? Nanny car 2024? Buy your teen this car and feel assured they won’t drive over 80mph? “Don’t worry we will alert the cops and even call you when they get arrested!”

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      8 months ago

      I bet insurance companies would pay out the nose for this data. Hike up the rates for drivers with “risky” habits.

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        I wonder if insurance companies would offer a lower rate for drivers with NannyCar features.

        We monitor everything that you do, and limit your ability to cost us money:

        No loud music, must use turn signals, no driving over 80mph, we track your movements, must wear seatbelt, pay tolls, have approved air pressure, no loud kids in the car, no distractions like hands on phones … stop at stop sign for 60 seconds. We can stop the car if we suspect is is being carjacked or involved in bank heist.

        Or a more nefarious motivation…Ford … we monitor the music you like, where you stop to eat, which commercials you don’t skip, where you buy gas, … and sell the information to advertisers…

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          This is how it’ll happen. Opt in. They’ll charge more by default and then you can share your safe driving with them to lower your premium. It’s often how it currently works with odometer readings, except not through a smart car, just a quick dash reading.

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            I’m imagining a nagging-nanny removing discounts for minuscule violations it deems catastrophic. “On September 2 you exhibited ‘road rage’ by not using your turn signal before passing.”

            Micromanaged driving. AI anti-privacy bot calculating your every move. Big-Nagging-Nanny

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          They already do this. I was offered to plug some kind of monitoring device into my car for a period of time to determine my driving behavior for potential lower rates. I went for higher rates.

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    I have to buy older cars. I wish there was a car company making new cars that were older fashioned. Or I wish cars were simplistic enough to DIY.

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    not watched the video but George Orwell wasn’t writing in favor of surveillance, nor was he a character in 1984.

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    Many of these features are required by law in the US for cars that have ADAS (advanced driver assistance systems). The car has to monitor what’s happening and what it’s doing and record some of that in case there’s an accident. It also has to monitor your attentiveness so you don’t “accidentally” drift off to sleep while it’s in control.

    Imagine if his son were driving and got into a crash with ADAS enabled and there weren’t any record of whose fault it was, the driver or the car. Ford would be like, “We’ll, I guess we’ll never know. Good luck with medical bills and a lifetime of suffering.”

    Sounds like the speed limiter is a setting that can be disabled. As for the other stuff, sharing phone data, that’s pretty disgusting. I would guess what they’re actually after is whether you’re watching the road or playing with your device. Still not okay without explicit consent before you buy the car.

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      Despite the down voters I appreciate you sharing the context about USA law around ADAS. Not a fan of this, but understanding how we got to a place where cars have this kind of privacy violation baked in is helpful

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        Thanks! I work for a car company, so I thought I’d share what I know. I was sad to see the negative votes. Your comment made my day. Thank you for taking the time to write it.

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          You’re very welcome ❤️ I think understanding why things are the way they are is important if we want any agency over it, I always appreciate folks who share their material knowledge of a subject

          Hope you have a good one man, take care :)