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    8 months ago

    Telemetry is significantly less invasive than on windows or Mac, and is completely optional during installation, after which you will never be asked to turn it on again

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    Microsoft:

    adding telemetry to the terminal.
    (in a recent poweshell update)

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    Just why?

    It’s been really sad watching them shoot themselves in the foot like this. They seem bent on destroying their distro. Which was the first distro I really used on an old laptop after trying a few.

    Man Ubuntu 16 those were the days.

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      It’s also amazing they even try because a good percentage of Ubuntu users are likely knowledgeable tech users who like to stay aware of their software. Many of them are probably former or current Microsoft or Apple users who want to avoid big corporate OS systems because of creeping advertising.

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      Why? Because it’s working, at least for now.

      Canonical has pulled similar shit for years now. Remember the Amazon search integration? They do it again and again, yet most users stay.

      And I know, someone will comment “but I totally ditched Ubuntu and my one friend did too!!!”, but how is Ubuntu still the most popular distribution? Finding snaps is easier than finding flatpacks or debs or rpms. Finding support is easier, etc. This might be just momentum, but until that is running out, it’s working.

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        He said Ubuntu 16, I believe the Amazon search fiasco was in 2012. He simply hasn’t been using Linux long enough to know that Ubuntu used to be good. His baseline user experience is probably gnome 3.

        So he’s comparing extra-shitty Ubuntu to shitty Ubuntu and saying it didn’t used to be shitty.

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          I know that amazon search was there also in 16.04 because it was my first distro and in my country i only briefly heard about amazon so it looked cool to me to have one button to order something but i never clicked on it because i tought it only works in rich countries or something. At that time i didnt gave a crap about privacy i was sold on it because i liked the design of unity and the fact that it looks different than school pcs with windows so it didnt remind me school

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          Ubuntu actually still had the unity desktop environment when I started using it. And I wasn’t happy when they switched to gnome. Thats part of why I stopped using it

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      Haven’t kept up with Ubuntu, but I believe this. It’s in line with Canonical’s behavior. They are very corporaty

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      This is the “ad”. Personally, I don’t think a little plug like this is worth any kind of fuss. If it were a real ad or something, then yea I would get it.

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        An ad is an ad and this definitely is an ad. This is the kind of shit that made me quit Windows and it would make me quit Ubuntu if I was using it.

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      Which version of Ubuntu you’re installing (including which flavour), Whether you have network connectivity, Hardware stats, including CPU, RAM, GPU, etc, Your device vendor (e.g., Dell, Lenovo, etc), Your country (based on the time zone you pick, not IP), How long your install took to complete, Whether you have auto login enabled, Your disk layout (how many hard drives and partitions you have), Whether you chose to install third party codecs, Whether you chose to download updates during install

      (According to OMG!Ubuntu) Most distros offer optional telemetry, but Ubuntu’s is opt out not opt in (for GNOME you have to separately install the telemetry)

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        Ubuntu’s is opt out not opt in

        I haven’t installed ubuntu in a while, but in EU you need to have prior consent from the user to gather any kind of data and if I remember correctly I haven’t seen such thing. And it’s not enough to bury that into documentation and say ‘if you use our software you allow us to blah blah’, you must get consent via an action from the user which spesifically allows that, so if telemetry comes silently with ‘apt dist-upgrade’ it’s not enough.

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          In Ubuntu in the post install screen theres is the telemetry screen where they explain it, allow you opt out and give you a json example of the data they’re collecting from your machine.

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    I actually have some telemetry enabled on my system, cause I want the maintainers of my distro to have more data to base their decisions on. I always disable everything for proprietary software though, and I dislike opt-out systems.

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      I only enable telemetry for software provided by nonprofit organizations that are legally obligated to publish detailed financial records. Never give anyone that reserves the right to sell you out any of the benefit of your data for free.

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    First the deliberate there/their BS on the other post, and now literally ? Yeah you’re definitely a real user with no other motivations whatsoever. Fuck off shill