• GlitterInfection@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    No, the point is that there is a correlation between eating processed foods and developing “incident depression” over a 15 year period in mostly white populations of middle-aged women.

    The study doesn’t say what you’re already claiming it does because of a headline, and that is what leads to very unhealthy advice given.

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      8 months ago

      The negative mood effects of unhealthy lifestyle choices are well established and not arguable. I’m not making that statement on this study, but rather the entire body of literature showing this to be the case.

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        7 months ago

        The point is that that ultra-processed or unhealthy foods increase the risk for depression in the general public.

        This is you, making a false statement that is about the study OP posted, not general “not arguable” bodies of knowledge.

        This is harmful, not helpful.

        Edit: for those downvoting me, the quote from the person before me is NOT based on decades of non arguable research. It is only based on their opinions, biases, and the headline OP posted.

        The study we are discussing opening paragraph says the following:

        Despite extensive data linking ultraprocessed foods (UPF; ie, energy-dense, palatable, and ready-to-eat items) with human disease,4 evidence examining the association between UPF consumption and depression is scant.

        Unless this random internet person knows more than these researchers, then I’d say that this person is doing the exact harmful thing I was trying to prevent.

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          8 months ago

          Ok, I’ll say it again. The negative mood effects of unhealthy lifestyle choices are well established and not arguable. I’m not making that statement on this study, but rather the entire body of literature showing this to be the case. Sorry there was a misunderstanding.

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            8 months ago

            They’re established to be linked to incidental depression, not clinical. It may help SOME people get out of a tailspin, but those with clinical/chronic depression will not experience the benefits of ‘healthier lifestyle choices’.

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              7 months ago

              Healthy lifestyle choices reduce the incidence of depression at the population level.

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                7 months ago

                Yes. This is not a cure all, but will indeed reduce (but not purge) situational depression among the populace. I did not disagree with you, I added nuance; no need to repeat your statement.

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            8 months ago

            If you’re not talking about the study, why did you quote the headline almost word for word?

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            8 months ago

            Then go edit your post to remove the statement that contradicts what you’re saying now.

            What I am trying to do is to prevent people from reading the headline and making the false statement that you then made based off of it and using that to try and give advice about diet and exercise to people with clinical depression.