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Also: You are assuming that just because the text contains a fallacy, it is incorrect or worthless. That is a fallacy in itself.
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  Assumptions are not logical fallacies.
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy
    Assuming that the text is wrong because it’s fallacious is a fallacy.
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      Except I didn’t just point out the fallacies. So you’re wrong.

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