I find myself using it less on lemmy, but I think I have used it on occasion here, just to help to “distance” myself from whatever crazy shit I’ve commented. Ever since 2016, it’s been a necessity when you can’t rely on people to assume you’re not as batshit crazy as what your comment reads as, which you really can’t assume of anyone anymore. I’ve had plenty of times where I wrote a sarcastic comment in order to make fun of an idea, only to have people (who I’m pretty sure actually agreed with me) explicitly make the point that I was attempting to make through sarcasm, but they’re attacking me because they think I’m an idiot (which is still possible).
Point taken. I suppose I mean sarcasm not satire. /s is really a sarcasm indicator, not just satire.
There are, however, other instances of satire that aren’t text based such as much movies (eg dr strangelove, Galaxy quest) or spoof movies as well as most political cartoons. But those sometimes are misunderstood as serious as well.
Sarcasm comes across much better in person than via text, which I’m sure you agree with.
Sarcasm comes across much better in person than via text, which I’m sure you agree with.
I completely disagree. Body language betrays your sarcasm much more easily in person. In text is where it’s much easier to hide the meaning you are trying to convey and confuse your audience.
Yeah, sarcasm isn’t meant to trick people. They are supposed to understand that it’s sarcasm. That’s what I meant when it comes across better in person. People get that it’s sarcasm because of that body language.
edit Wait a tick, you’re "sarcasm"ing me, aren’t you!?
It’s really not. Satire just isn’t for you if you don’t want risk being misunderstood. You don’t write the opposite of what you mean if you must be understood clearly the first time.
I find myself using it less on lemmy, but I think I have used it on occasion here, just to help to “distance” myself from whatever crazy shit I’ve commented. Ever since 2016, it’s been a necessity when you can’t rely on people to assume you’re not as batshit crazy as what your comment reads as, which you really can’t assume of anyone anymore. I’ve had plenty of times where I wrote a sarcastic comment in order to make fun of an idea, only to have people (who I’m pretty sure actually agreed with me) explicitly make the point that I was attempting to make through sarcasm, but they’re attacking me because they think I’m an idiot (which is still possible).
Satire is fucking dead.
Satire is
deadhard on a text only based medium.Name one work of satire from before 1930 that wasn’t text based
Point taken. I suppose I mean sarcasm not satire. /s is really a sarcasm indicator, not just satire.
There are, however, other instances of satire that aren’t text based such as much movies (eg dr strangelove, Galaxy quest) or spoof movies as well as most political cartoons. But those sometimes are misunderstood as serious as well.
Sarcasm comes across much better in person than via text, which I’m sure you agree with.
I completely disagree. Body language betrays your sarcasm much more easily in person. In text is where it’s much easier to hide the meaning you are trying to convey and confuse your audience.
Yeah, sarcasm isn’t meant to trick people. They are supposed to understand that it’s sarcasm. That’s what I meant when it comes across better in person. People get that it’s sarcasm because of that body language.
edit Wait a tick, you’re "sarcasm"ing me, aren’t you!?
No I mean satire is dead because stupid motherfuckers that will believe or want to believe everything killed it.
Can’t even be satirical without some dumb ass going “yep there’s my people!” And then starting another fucking retard movement.
It’s really not. Satire just isn’t for you if you don’t want risk being misunderstood. You don’t write the opposite of what you mean if you must be understood clearly the first time.
Satire is a necrophile.
Actually you can. You can choose to trust, despite knowing the dangers of a thing. And it’s prosocial to do so.