I’m not trying to convince anyone to go back i promise, quite the contrary actually cause I think spez plans to just decrease the cost of the API and act like it was a bargain deal sacrifice while not solving any of the issues at all

But, when I think about it even if spez did actually listen and reverse all changes I don’t think i want to go back to Reddit cause from what Ive seen Lemmy is just friendlier and less :Be Corporate Friendly: I would honestly love it if Lemmy did a project like r/place one of these days so we could see what the internet is actually like instead of what happened in 2022 (I really did enjoy what a bunch of communities did but when the mods started abusing their powers to make it corporate r/place lost so much meaning) but i am curious since i’m not going back is there anything Reddit can do to make you go back to Reddit?

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    I’m done.

    The subs I moderated have either gone dark, or are going dark in the next ciuple days.

    And with that I let the mod teams I was a part of know that I am moving on. I hate what reddit did to the community, and my time feels better spent where it will be appreciated.

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    i kind of want reddit to die now. people talking to one another shouldn’t be monetized or debased through some spyware algorithm run by antisocial dickheads.

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    I think many people were looking for a reason to leave but kind of felt stuck seeing all the alternatives being either dead or abrasive.

    Lemmy seems to have captured the soul of what a significant portion of people have already been looking for.

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      I have to agree with you on that I saw a comment earlier about the people who left Reddit being a loud minority but something feels off about that

      Lemmy’s community feels so familiar I sadly just can’t find the right words to describe it though

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      This describes me perfectly. Most of the alternatives I saw previously just ended up being coopted by the alt-right crowd who got chased off of Reddit. Lemmy (so far) represents what I want from an online community.

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      Lemmy in it’s current state feels very similar to reddit did ~14 years ago.

      I am just smitten. I’ll never go back.

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        Exactly. Lemmy is great, and is essentially all I wanted from Reddit without the Reddit

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    • 100% backpedal on all controversial changes announced within the previous 6 months; including any changes announced at the same time as said controversial changes.
    • Form a task force of admins and developers to backport all; critical moderation tools and changes introduced since the new.reddit launch; to old.reddit. (Complete this task within 1-2 years.)
    • Irrevocably Hard remove with no severance /u/spez from his CEO position and any position of power at reddit.
    • Hire a new CEO from the pool of the community team(s).
    • Cease all Dickery at once
    • CANCEL THE IPO!!! This shit needs to wait until reddit gets it’s act together.
    • Prioritize hiring humans to run reddit AEO; choose them from your MASSIVE FUCKING POOL OF SUBREDDIT MODERATORS! DO NOT USE AI OR HIRE ANYONE WHO HASN’T MANAGED AT LEAST 25K USER SUBS
    • Ban all forms of facism; this is including forms of EXTREME viewpoints that grossly exceed reasonable discourse, peaceful free speech, advocate for extremist governmental regulation, violence or oppression of any kind against any group or subset of people.
    • fuck /u/spez - Just make sure he never gets a C-Level job again please.
    • continue to build reddit out in a way that allows for fair and ethically priced services from reddit (Ads, unlimited API access, rev sharing, premium features that are cosmetic items only, etc)
    • Pick up the same “Do No Evil” ethos that Google abandoned; prioritize your users and revenue equally and balance the obligations better.
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    As someone who really only went on Reddit for memes and techie discussions, I think I can say this: for my use-case, there was nothing special about Reddit itself. In fact, one thing I have realized is just how little the nature of the host matters beyond ease of use. Sure, certain formats lend themselves better to certain use-cases, but ultimately humans are social creatures, and even in the most inconvenient of circumstances, we find a way to make it work.

    And once you realize that, it becomes less about the medium, and more about the people who lead the discourse. From what I can gather, Reddit lost that discourse a long time ago. And as such, their downfall was only a matter of time.

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      Funny, I was just having that discussion with someone.

      I think the problem is all these platforms think the platform is the value and not the content made by the users.

      And of course, since they have the best platform, it’d be inconceivable that anyone would ever leave because they’re the best.

      Twitter, Reddit, Youtube, and Twitch are all doing exactly the ‘value is the platform’ while taking a massive shit on the creators and users that made the platform have any value in the first place, then acting confused why people are angry about how they’re behaving.

      No actual human gives a crap about the platform: nobody goes to these sites to go to the site, they go there for the content from someone they like.

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    nothing short of the resurrection of Aaron Swartz at this point. huffman’s screwed the pooch while jumping the shark at the same time, and the rest of the board are complicit. either get rid of them all and replace them with geeks who act like are there so that the servers don’t break down, or we’ll stay in other places like this where that specific situation is the reality.

    it’s about the user experience. can’t have the corporate cheeze-heads fucking that over for the sake of a quick buck,

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    One thing that irritates me about Reddit is how it’s converged with the rest of twitter, instagram and tiktok to be just endless scrolling through memes, gifs and videos. Reddit is so far from it’s roots and killing third party apps really does remove that old avenue. I do feel like commenting is going to reduce as people just mindlessly scroll through content without really engaging it anymore.

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    I’ll be real: I don’t want to go back. I want a return to actual communities and comradery, and an exodus from “social” influencers, on ad-riddled and bloated soap boxes.

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      Bingo. That’s me too.

      I never realized just how tired I was of social media until Reddit blew themselves up. I had already quit Zucc’s armoury of social media tools a few years ago. I’ll be glad if I don’t ever have to go back.

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    Nothing.

    Reddit and u/spez haven’t even offered an apology and/or reversed their position. But let’s be real, here - apologies don’t necessarily make things right, and they don’t necessarily erase what’s been done. At best, we can forgive. But people don’t forget. Whatever trust there may have been, it’s gone now. I’ve grown tired of the half-assed apologies made by organizations and famous individuals that are supposed to make everything ok and compel us to forget what was done. I don’t think I’d care if Reddit and/or u/spec tried to make amends. They would not be genuine - your true colors are visible for all to see. Welcome to the real world where hollow apologetic half-measures don’t fool anyone.

    If I spat on your lunch because I was having a bad day, I don’t think there would be much I could say to defend my actions. Actions speak louder than words, and sometimes when you screw up there’s no going back. You’re just done.

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    At this point, me run out of alternatives worth trying. Just signed up for a lemmy instance today, and liking what I’m seeing so far (even if communities are quite a lot smaller than I’m used to at the moment), but there are other sites that might scratch the reddit itch that I’ll try even if the fediverse stuff doesn’t take off. Reddit has shown that that they’re a) greedy, and b) incompetent at being greedy. And I’m not going to contribute to them again until I’m well and truly out of other options.

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    Literally wouldn’t go anywhere if the app I like wasn’t having to shut down.

    Their official app is horrible to use in comparison. Just joined up here and installed Jerboa and it’s like using the app I’m losing there.

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      Ill miss RIF, im curious if RIF had a different algorithm or something cause from what im reading there was a lot of awful going on with reddit and I saw nearly none of it.

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        I mean, I didn’t see as much of the bad “Reddit” culture that people talk about either. But I had curated my feed to the point that I had little default subs left so perhaps I was “avoiding the crowds”, so to speak.

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    Either free access to the API for mobile app developers or allow mobile app developers to run adds to pay for API access at a price corresponding to the actual costs involved with providing the API access…

    And fix the linking “bug” they created 5 years ago to try to force old.reddit site users to migrate to the new shitty reddit site by breaking links on old.reddit.

    But neither of those will happen… and I’m actually happy about that. I’ve been growing more and more dissatisfied with Reddit for years, and if they decide to wreck it they can wreck it. I will miss what it used to be, but I won’t miss what it has become.

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      Tbh Lemmy feels like all the kind side of Reddit I remember from like r/whatisthis and r/explainlikeimfive and it feels like what Reddit was for me when I joined bout 10 years ago

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    Honestly I really don’t see much of a future for profit-driven social media. Time and time again we’ve seen that power over communication is just too much power for an individual company to have. The fediverse makes a lot of sense, but I’m not sure if it’s the ultimate end state. It would be very nice if it were