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    11 months ago

    The country Israel was founded by people who are native to the land. Perhaps read up on the history of the area, because what you are writing is factually incorrect.

    There was no country before and the area was populated by multiple different groups of people. Those people wanted to found countries in the area. There is war(s) regarding where the borders of these countries should be.

    That’s how almost every country in the world came into place. The only difference here is that it is taking place in a time when the whole world is watching in real time and people are much more globally mobile.

    I know it’s much easier and comfortable to paint a black and white picture of the situation, but it is just false…

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      11 months ago

      If they were native to the land, how do you explain Deir Yasdin or the Nakba?

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        11 months ago

        ??? What does that have to do with the fact that Israel is a country founded for people who are native to the land?

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          If they are native to the land, why did they have to massacre (Deir Yassin) and ethnically cleanse (the Nakba) the other natives? 🤔

          I’m asking because Deir Yassin is the massacre that eventually convinced my grandmother’s family to leave their hometown and become refugees in Jordan, especially after the men in the village tried to fight off these “natives to the land” because they were attacking and killing everyone. Deir Yassin convinced Palestinians that they couldn’t trust these “natives”, since they don’t stick to their treaties, and go around marauding.

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            11 months ago

            Jews were killed and oppressed in the area already thousands of years ago. How is that possible if they are not natives to the land?

            For example during the Levant conquest or the regular and ongoing conflicts between Arabs and Jews in the area when it was still Transjordan? These conflicts are so fucking old they are mentioned in the Koran.

            It’s nonsensical to try and claim Jews aren’t native there.

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              Please answer my question first. If they were natives to the land, why did they have to commit massacres and ethnic cleansing against the other natives of the land?

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                11 months ago

                For the same reason why people do that in every country to each other. Religion, incompatible cultural values, ideologies that go against other people, … It’s sadly something people do and have done everywhere in some way or another.

                In Transjordan and the greater area between Northern Africa and Asia there were countless shifts and movements, mixing and separation of groups for all kind of reasons. But I think the separation because of different religions is probably the reason that lead to the biggest rifts, at least in that place.

                I don’t see how that has anything to do with whether or not a group of people is native to or had ancestry in a land.

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                  Because people native to a land don’t tend to butcher their neighbors and then establish an apartheid state, even for ideological differences,