Charlie Kirk confirmed dead.
I’m completely apathetic to this news. I’m not going to celebrate his death. But I think there’s a lesson hidden somewhere in here, we’ll probably lots of lessons.
I’ve been playing Lead Belly’s Blue Tail Fly every few hours and substituting Monster for Master because i don’t know the lyrics very well
The Schadenfreude is flowing freely today.
Thoughts and prayers 🙏
Oh also “Now is not the time”.
31?! Hate really ages you.
"If a person has ugly thoughts, it begins to show on the face. And when that person has ugly thoughts every day, every week, every year, the face gets uglier and uglier until you can hardly bear to look at it.
A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts it will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.
Roald Dahl, The Twits
Thoughts of malice, envy, disappointment, despondency, rob the body of its health and grace. A sour face does not come by chance; it is made by sour thoughts. Wrinkles that mar are drawn by folly, passion, and pride.
I know a woman of ninety-six who has the bright, innocent face of a girl. I know a man well under middle age whose face is drawn into inharmonious contours. The one is the result of a sweet and sunny disposition; the other is the outcome of passion and discontent.
James Allen, As a Man Thinketh
yeah i’ll keep my wrinkles if it means i have to give up my passion
is this the mythical “good guy with a gun” that republicans promised?
Fucking wild that a right-wing YouTuber/social media influencer was assassinated on my birthday.
I’m genuinely sickened by how many people have been openly celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death, like having conservative views or supporting the right to bear arms literally makes you Hitler in their eyes. His two young childen have been robbed of their father, and people are still cheering like they’d genuinely use his grave as a gender neutral toilet.
Also, I worry this is going to be America’s Reichstag Fire or Kristallnacht moment. This could very well lead to pogroms against leftists and ethnic minorities.
This guy’s propaganda helped result in the unnecessary deaths of millions during the pandemic.
He was a lot worse than that - he was a legit purveyor of hate.
cry about it. him abd his extended circle killed far more people with their actions. they’re just not as blatant as a bullet to the neck :)
He was literally in the process of blaming trans people and black people for school shootings.
We are celebrating a fascist no longer being able to encourage violence against marginalized people.
Which is wild, because the fact that you are celebrating instead of a normal reaction (like, i don’t know, feel bad for his family or something) will lead to them feeling confirmed in their hate towards the left.
You don’t make progress by eulogizing someone who spent their life justifying violence against marginalized people.
His family can confront the hours of evidence he was a piece of shit and the families of the victims whose killers were motivated by his lies.
they already hate the left. they just need a reason to take action. don’t be delusional.
I’d much prefer that they hated the left for made up shit (like trans or gac people being pedophiles) than for things where i have to reluctantly admit that they have a point (like the left celebrating a fellow humans death).
I can say that hate breeds hate and that his killing was a direct consequence of the environment he helped create. But i don’t support that violence. I don’t support the murder of a human being, even of someone i perceive as a bad person.
Appreciate you saying this. I too worry that some will take this event as a call to action. We all need to chill with this left/right nonsense. These are our brothers and sisters that are getting killed. I don’t care if they had bad opinions, nothing good comes from celebrating a murder.
I agree that we should not ever celebrate someone’s death. Violence isn’t the answer. Sometimes it’s required to defend yourself, but it doesn’t solve problems.
With all that being said, if you think that motivation for his killing was that he was a right wing, 2nd amendment type, well, I’ve got some land in Australia I’d like to sell you.
The guy was genuinely horrible to a lot of non conservatives, and thought gun violence was “a small price to pay” for the second amendment.
Others have detailed his horrific viewpoints far better than I could, so I’ll just leave it at that.
As much as I don’t condone violence, I’m not going to get sad about someone I didn’t know, who held beliefs I don’t agree with, has died. I have some measure of sympathy for his kids. His spouse knew who they were marrying, so I have less sympathy for them, but the kids, in my opinion, are the victims in all of this, if anyone. They didn’t ask for this guy to be their father, and they certainly don’t deserve to lose their father in such a public and very visible way. I have zero doubts that they will eventually see the footage that’s floated around the Internet, if they have not seen it already. That’s a tragedy. They’ll have to see, in full color, the last moments of their fathers life.
I can only imagine the kind of trauma that could impart. I truly feel bad for those kids.
Thank you! I am shocked how few here understand that violence as an answer to hate will only further deepen the spiral of hate and violence. Y’all feel justified because the guy was a transhating fascist, but the right will see you guys celebrate and only take it as confirmation that the left are literal demons that have no empathy for two children robbed of their father.
Americans.
“One reason why we don’t kill is because we are not used to it. I never killed anybody, but I have done just the same thing. I have had a great deal of satisfaction over many obituary notices that I have read. I never got into the habit of killing. I could mention the names of many that it would please me if I could read their obituaries in the paper in the morning,”
~ Clarence Darrow
Karma comes for us all.
I hope this inspires copycats.
Bruh… We are in for an explosion of political violence… Only difference between now and the past is white wealthy men are the targets. Watching them freak out when they are gunned down on a random Wednesday is laughable. Welcome to your average black Americans reality. Police killings are political violence but no one with actual power ever gave a shit.
Just like “Elections are the pressure release of an unhappy populace” trust in rule of law helps prevent people from taking things into their own hands.
Police protection of right wing shotters, ignoring due process, the supreme court saying it’s ok to break the law if you are Trump. People have lost faith in the instutions of law and are taking things into their own hands.
This is the result of the Republicans dismantling the norms of government and rule of law.
in for
I think we’ve been in one. After Trump got shot, I predicted that political assassination would be the “cool thing” among the stochastic terrorism types, and that seems to have been true, between Luigi, That guy who killed those legislators in MN, and now this.
I would like to note that Luigi Mangione has not been convicted of anything and it has not been proven that he was the one who killed the UnitedHealthCare CEO, there was also a lot of improper police conduct in relation to his arrest.
In fact, I’m pretty sure I saw Luigi Mangione outside my local grocery store roughly halfway around the world when the alleged killing happened.
If we’ve been in one…
No, we are the targets now. This was the perfect excuse to increase militarization against the citizenry and distract from the Epstein Files. Whoever did this is a short-sighted idiot.
You sound like when an abused child tells his baby sister not to do anything to make dad mad
You sound like someone who is okay with murdering people you don’t like
I wouldn’t murder anyone but I’m certainty not going to be upset when a shit gibbon gets his neck blown out.
You sound like the kind of person that if someone was getting attacked in the street, you would grab their arms to stop them defending themselves while saying to them that they need to be the better person.
I would happily kick you in the face if that were ever the case
That’s such a stupid example. This isn’t a Luigi moment, Charlie Kirk was not effectively ordering people’s deaths. There are indeed people I would not feel bad about, but congrats on making most normal Americans (outside of this little terrorist bubble) feeling bad for Charlie Kirk and his now-fatherless children because some random guy didn’t like what they heard on the Internet. I’m sure MAGA will resign any day now and install Bernie Sanders as president because your threw a murderous hissy fit. 👍
Charlie Kirk was not effectively ordering people’s deaths
Seconds before getting owned in the marketplace of ideas, Kirk had literally said trans people are responsible for “too many” school shootings.
They were going to do that regardless of what happened today. At least they’re one raging Nazi short.
Always remember yall, they hate us for existing, we hate them for the harm they cause to others. We are not the same.
Now they’ll accelerate the pace since the public will be less critical of such action, and 5 raging Nazis will take his place on social media. Unlike violent MAGA cultists, you won’t be recruiting very many progressives who would consider right-wingers with social media accounts to be worthy of a death sentence.
Nothing good has been accomplished here.
I take your point. More Nazi goons need to get it, ASAP.
This was the perfect excuse to increase militarization against the citizenry and distract from the Epstein Files. Whoever did this is a short-sighted idiot.
For all we know, Kirk was a sacrificial lamb, and this is all part of the plan.
Ps willing to bet it was the neo Nazies he was arguing with on Twitter with the week before. He he was figuratively telling them that their obvert racism was bad for business and the conservative agenda. And they said he’s a jew simp and threatened him.
Why blame Nazis? You are clearly demonstrating that there are plenty of leftists willing to murder people they disagree with on the Internet
How about you take those pearls you are clutching so tightly, and go tell every millionaire, executive, board members, police/ice agent, and nazi this warning. Because apparently you nor them have ever picked up a history book. This only ends one way unless they fuck off to their private sex islands leaving all their wealth. That or them and/or their offspring’s remains will be strung up in the streets as a cautionary tail. I’m not threatening anyone. It’s no different that 2+2=4. Authoritarianism plus inequality equals a lot of dead people.
Violent revolution requires hearts and minds, it requires a people so oppressed and wronged that a popular uprising is possible. Unfortunately that means you have to suffer to some degree before that becomes a viable path to retaking power. You can’t skip past it, because then you are standing by yourself looking like nothing more than one of the theoretical leftist terrorists radicals they keep talking about, which i always found ridiculous until i saw the reactions here.
This isn’t some Luigi moment, he wasn’t sitting around deciding who lives and dies, he was just a right-winger with a social media presence, and i happen to follow a lot of left-wingers with a social media presence who I’d prefer to not see targeted for murder by a bunch of crazies just because they don’t like what they hear.
Revolution is going to require you to step out of your bubble and understand that most Americans, including progressives like me who didn’t even vote for Clinton because they were not progressive enough, will find your reaction appalling and will never endorse this sort of depravity. Do something more productive with those emotions, understand that good things do not come quickly or easily, and that this has not achieved a single good thing.
Uhhhhhhh popular up rising. Have you just been online? Have you just been watching “main stream” news? Has your life been that comfortable?
For the last time no one is dumb to what you are trying to say. Say I’m in a bubble? Bruh… Go spend your energy somewhere else on individuals that actually need to hear your words. Because we know. There’s more than enough popular connections going on. You just aren’t connected to your community. My community is gearing up for tougher times than we are currently dealing with. So go on. Keep acting like your bubble is a litmus test for whats going on. You are obviously overlooking tons of organizing and ground work going on in communities different than your own.
Go spend your flowery words on those that actually need it. Because many demographics and communities are organized and are ready for what comes next.
Agreed, no one ever thinks of the poor Nazis. What did they ever do to hurt anyone?
…Recently. No, more recently than you’re thinking. Like, they haven’t killed or lynched anyone in the last 30 seconds, have they? QED!
I mean they invaded dc. Likely this doesn’t change anyone’s plans
Trump and his cult created this environment. His hate mongering and baiting brought us here.
cause <-> effect, then you’re cooking
Well, I hope he enjoys burning 🔥 in hell.
I enjoyed a nice day of being alive today.
Hollow Point USA
Are there hollow point rifle rounds?
Yes
Well. That is news to me. Anyway.
Just for reference.
https://www.classicfirearms.com/ammunition/308_win-hollow_point/
Naw, looked more like a jacketed round.
Is there anyone even left of substance at turning point?
I’m sure his neck turned hollow at one point
True
“Facts Don’t Care About Your Feelings!”
Hydrostatic shock is a hell of a drug
