It was banned on Reddit because it is racist, hatefull and spread Conspiracies.
In my new community I expect the exclution of racist communities. It is easy now
with defederation. Nazis can do whatever they want on their instances, but the
instances I want to be part of should not amplify their shit and flush it into
our timelines. The instance-admin of !thedonald@sh.itjust.works
[/c/thedonald@sh.itjust.works] did not reply to my message. Big instances seem
not to defederate with them. The new TD may not be a success, the point is not
to give Nazis a platform like it is happening now. Fans of TD are racists. Where
are the instances that show face against racism? edit: to contact the admins:
@donut@sh.itjust.works @TheDude@sh.itjust.works @smorks@sh.itjust.works
A tankie is someone who defends Chinese and Soviet communism and denies that any of the claimed atrocities happen. In the name of Marxism-Leninism, or Maoism, or Stalinism, they get very angry, attack you and ban you if you think differently, and will fight to the teeth to claim that the tiananmen square massacre, the uyghur genocide, holodomor, any other genocides by Mao, Stalin or whoever you want who’s communist, are Western imperialistic propaganda. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. There’s a whole thing there just like nazis aren’t just “people who hate jews but claim the Jewish genocide never happened”. Tankies usually also defend Russia in the Russo-Ukrainian War (or “conflict” as they may claim). Then again, Trump supporters usually also defend Russia. Maybe the horseshoe theory is not that crazy.
Tankies have no meaningful communism to defend. They’re not defending communist states, they’re defending a right wing authoritarian oligarchy, and an authoritarian corporatocracy. They’re not ideologues. They’re contrarian bootlickers.
Oh yes of course in their stated goals sure. But in the day to day commentary it’s all just worshiping of authoritarian states that abandoned their core economic socialist principles decades ago.
Oh I wasn’t advocating for communism. Or saying these states are failed because it’s not “real communism.” I’m saying the users on here who defend Russia and China aren’t defending communism. They’re defending one brand of authoritarianism because it happens to be anti western.
Yup. That’s what the horseshoe theory says lmao. That both extremes meet. That’s why tankies are so similar to nazis I guess. Or maybe they’re both just the same thing and people like saying ones are “extreme left” and the others are “extreme right”.
We’ll go through each account application with due diligence, but we would like you to know before you request an account that Lemmygrad is a Marxist instance, principally Marxist-Leninist. We like Stalin and we uphold the DPRK’s sovereignty and legitimacy over the whole of Korea. We love China’s Socialism with Chinese Characteristics.
By experience, most internet users who self-identified as Communists and oppose Stalin tend to be either brainwashed people in countries that are under the rule of Westen European diaspora or trolling bots. Is there any real Communists who actually oppose Stalin? Stalin receive the most slander in Western European diaspora because he refused the destruction of USSR through an unsustainable war against Fascism and he forced the desolution of alliance by British and French empires with Hitler’s Nazi Germany. The Liberals complained about the non-agreession pact between Stalin and Hitler, even when the Western European empires forced Stalin to make the peace pact, that buy time for war preparation by USSR against Hitler at a time when USSR is too underindustrialized and too devasted from the Russian civial war that was more damaging than World War 1.
DPR Korea isn’t sovereign over the whole of Korea. Not yet, anyway. Hopefully soon.
They are not your mainstream idea of socialists or communist, but have more in common with alt right fascist groups than they themselves would like to admit. Just the worshiping of centralized figure heads with life long terms who happen to have more power and wealth than the people they rule over seems contrary to the ideals of communism and socialism.
I really need to get in the loop on what a tankie is- I have never heard that term until I came over here to lemmyland…
A tankie is someone who defends Chinese and Soviet communism and denies that any of the claimed atrocities happen. In the name of Marxism-Leninism, or Maoism, or Stalinism, they get very angry, attack you and ban you if you think differently, and will fight to the teeth to claim that the tiananmen square massacre, the uyghur genocide, holodomor, any other genocides by Mao, Stalin or whoever you want who’s communist, are Western imperialistic propaganda. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. There’s a whole thing there just like nazis aren’t just “people who hate jews but claim the Jewish genocide never happened”. Tankies usually also defend Russia in the Russo-Ukrainian War (or “conflict” as they may claim). Then again, Trump supporters usually also defend Russia. Maybe the horseshoe theory is not that crazy.
Tankies have no meaningful communism to defend. They’re not defending communist states, they’re defending a right wing authoritarian oligarchy, and an authoritarian corporatocracy. They’re not ideologues. They’re contrarian bootlickers.
If you read their rhetoric, tankies do tend to defend communism in general. They grab the theories of Marx and Lenin and whatever to do this.
Oh yes of course in their stated goals sure. But in the day to day commentary it’s all just worshiping of authoritarian states that abandoned their core economic socialist principles decades ago.
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Oh I wasn’t advocating for communism. Or saying these states are failed because it’s not “real communism.” I’m saying the users on here who defend Russia and China aren’t defending communism. They’re defending one brand of authoritarianism because it happens to be anti western.
Dang, why couldn’t they simply be proponents of armored cavalry instead of an entire memeplex of bad ideas.
Sounds like your typical extremist.
Honestly- if you change around terminology slightly…, it also describes the far-right wingers AND the far-left wingers too.
I generally try to keep ALL of those types of communities removed… its not healthy.
Yup. That’s what the horseshoe theory says lmao. That both extremes meet. That’s why tankies are so similar to nazis I guess. Or maybe they’re both just the same thing and people like saying ones are “extreme left” and the others are “extreme right”.
They are The Donald of their sect.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230608014753/https://lemmygrad.ml/post/668436
They are not your mainstream idea of socialists or communist, but have more in common with alt right fascist groups than they themselves would like to admit. Just the worshiping of centralized figure heads with life long terms who happen to have more power and wealth than the people they rule over seems contrary to the ideals of communism and socialism.
Oh wow… Thanks… for the link and heads up.
Basically a “communist” who supports autocracy over socialism. Someone who longs for a boot on their neck, because it comforts them.
Communist radicals. It’s kinda like they worship stalin the way the c/ under discussion here worships the cheeto.
Is that a Europe thing, or is that happening everywhere?
Tankies are everywhere. It’s the authoritarian side of socialism/communism. There’s plenty of china related tankies too