• Chalky_Pockets@lemmy.world
    541·
    1 year ago

    Torn on this one.

    On the one hand, there’s a lot of great metal, it’s obviously not all garbage.

    On the other hand, I love winding up those people who get all bent out of shape about how one or more of those genes “isn’t real metal” so I kinda still appreciate the post lol.

          • sarsaparilyptus@midwest.social
            3·
            1 year ago

            Might be indie rock. I’ll never forget going to 4chan /mu/ and seeing a guy argue that music should be unpleasant and hard to listen to if you really care about it, because then your opinion on the “sonic experience” isn’t being compromised by pleasure, citing the godawful singer of Neutral Milk Hotel as enriching the band more than a good singer would have. Called Death Grips “entry-level” music for tweens before you’re ready to graduate to experimental non-melodic field recordings of harsh noise.

            • nxdefiant@startrek.website
              1·
              1 year ago

              I can’t say I agree but I think I can understand what that random 4channer was getting at.

              Time by Wax Poetic Is one that I listened to on and off for months when it came out. I could never say I liked it but at times I wanted to hear it. It was never a pleasant experience, more like trying to figure out why I kept wanting to hear it.

    • arefx@lemmy.ml
      2·
      1 year ago

      I mean crust punk definitely isn’t metal…

      What I’ve noticed is anyone who doesn’t listen to extreme music calls it all death metal. It can be straight up hardcore punk but to them it’s “death metal”.

  • XEAL@lemm.ee
    211·
    1 year ago

    Great, I see that Alternative Metal and Nu Metal are in the clear.

  • mommykink@lemmy.world
    15·
    1 year ago

    I love how the left is all genres of metal except at the end with the random inclusion of crust punk. You can tell the OOP really liked the genre and wanted to include it in his maymay

  • LazaroFilm@artemis.camp
    91·
    1 year ago

    Why what are you drinking? — Oh it’s a Cabernet Sauvignon, 2003, with chestnut hints it’s delicious. — Me: it’s just moldy grape Juice. — no but you have to pay attention to the small nuances in the… oh.

  • GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.de
    1811·
    1 year ago

    Metal people are always like “nooo it’s not all annoying noise and throaty growling, you just have to listen to X” and then X is all annoying noise and throaty growling.

    • Johanno@feddit.de
      93·
      1 year ago

      Hold on a second!

      I mean if you don’t like metal then don’t listen to it but metal has as much sub genres as the rest of the music has genres. Basically if you can think of sth there is probably a metal Version of it(idk why though)

      If you want to upset metal heads then say you like Babymetal. Those japanese are crazy

      • Leroy@lemmy.world
        6·
        1 year ago

        If you want to upset metal heads then say you like Babymetal. Those japanese are crazy

        Wtf, thanks for bringing this band into my life

      • GCostanzaStepOnMe@feddit.deEnglish
        77·
        1 year ago

        but metal has as much sub genres as the rest of the music has genres.

        That’s because every metal band suffers from the delusion that their sound is novel and genre defining, when more likely, it’s just a tiny variation on annoying noise and throaty growling.

        • geno@lemmy.worldEnglish
          8·
          1 year ago

          I do understand that growling is the part that often splits opinions and I won’t act otherwise, but there’s quite a lot of metal songs/bands with no growling.

          I guess the conclusion that “metal is mostly just annoying noise and throaty growling” is related to what gets discussed online - in most cases the vocal part of metal fans are already in the deep end of the subgenres, so only the really heavy stuff gets mentioned. So I do understand where you’re coming from, no real criticism here. :D

          I guess the “less heavy” stuff is less often discussed, or just forgotten about when people are talking about “metal” as a whole:

          • As an example Nightwish is considered metal, and they have an opera singer: Nightwish - Ghost Love Score

          • Another random example, Jonathan Young’s metal cover of Hellfire (from Disney’s Notre Dame). Almost completely clean vocals, but also a bit “angry” sounding here and there.

          • Kardashev - Torchpassing is also one of my all-time favourites, and it’s mostly clean vocals. I guess the genre of this song is questionable anyway, due to being a bit more “chill” in many parts of the song - but the faster parts are quite clearly metal. Growling is used like an “extra effect” a couple of times.

          It’s also perfectly fine to not enjoy any of these, just dropping them here as examples about metal songs which have a clear melody and clean vocals. :D

          I do like my noise-filled growling too, though. This is one of the songs where I completely understand that vast majority of people would hate it, and anyone expecting otherwise would be delusional. I love it, but I also hate when some people act like everyone should enjoy stuff like this lmao.