• Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Picard could take Vader easily. One kironide mineral shot would neutralize Vader’s powers. Then Picard’s fencing technique vs Vader’s clumsy robotic slashes would have Picard killing Vader in a fraction of a second.

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      5 months ago

      This is not counting the Force though. I’ve always maintained that the films are too PG when it comes to using the power if you had actual telekinesis. Vader choked a guy through a video call, reaching out to pinch a couple blood vessels in Picard’s brain would just drop him instantly.

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        5 months ago

        It’s why I said kironide mineral shot. That’s from the TOS episode Plato’s Children. One shot and you have more Force power than the greatest Force user.

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          2 days ago

          the force cannot be trapped nor leave someone

          it is technically the energy flowing through all living things in star wars

          Midichlorians are what decide your “power” and midichlorians cannot be modified artificially

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            12 hours ago

            5 month old post and someone read it and immediately down voted you? Or maybe lemmy.wotld’s database is broken.

            Anyway, the StarWars Universe doesn’t appear to have any science. They have technology and improve their technology but no understanding of the science behind it which would allow for significant improvements. They can take existing technology and make it bigger (Death Star laser) or smaller (xwing hyperdrive). That’s it.

            In StarWars, they have had ftl for thousands of years. TNG is 300 years in the future. In StarWars if you get injured, you die or get a replacement robot part by a robot doctor. In Trek, Worf gets his spine crushed and a human doctor creates a real replacement, not a robotic part to heal Worf. In StarWars, Padme dies and the robot says " broken heart" like it’s a medieval level of medical science.

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              12 hours ago

              the thing is, we see Star Wars from the POV of regular people and certain important people

              We dont see the science perspectives

              If I go up to a random US Marine and ask him how an F35 works, he wouldnt be able to answer most of the times

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              12 hours ago

              padme dies because she was choked half to death by her own husband (he probably crushed her windpipe with the fist motion at the end when Obi Wan told him to stop, and thats why her voice is so low) and thrown on the scorching hot floor of Mustafar, a Volcanic World and had to push out 2 force sensitive kids after. The Robotic Doctor says “she has lost the will to live” not as a cause of death but as an observation

              and in Star Wars, the replacement parts are robotic because its way cheaper and more efficient for the average person to get Metal, which you can find anywhere honestly than recreate human tissue

              the Robotic doctors are in place because you dont have to pay them or even feed them, theyre insanely cheap compared to humans

              each rebel base had a human medic, but robotic doctors were much easier to maintain

              star wars is scifi dystopia star trek is scifi utopia

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                11 hours ago

                padme dies because she was choked half to death by her own husband

                She was talking to Obiwan afterwards. No crushed wind pipe. No explanation given other than “lost will to live”.

                and in Star Wars, the replacement parts are robotic because its way cheaper and more efficient for the average person to get Metal, which you can find anywhere honestly than recreate human tissue

                Yes, they use tech because they have no science to develop anything better. Anakin was a Jedi. He was the best of the best of the best on the capital planet of a republic of 1.3 million worlds. Cost was no object and he got a robot hand in Episode 2.

                We dont see the science perspectives

                We do see a lack of science. Your claims about the force aren’t shown in the movies. We see force powers in Trek and they are investigated and replicated.

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                  10 hours ago

                  she was talking but her voice was significantly weaker

                  Anakin and other warriors get robotic hands because Metal is

                  1. cheaper
                  2. the jedi order doesnt have infinite money
                  3. metal hit harder than hand

                  and every force sensitive person has this thing called a “force shield” which prevents others from using the force on them. This is why we see no direct force usage force-to-force. When two Force sensitive people fight using the force, they throw around air or objects at the person

                  ultimately, we are different universes with different rules