Well, the original post seems to think so. It’s important either way to make sure that the stats used actually support the underlying conclusion. Magas want to show correlation between trans and gun violence, so if there is in fact a higher prevalence of shooters among the trans group, which this post does not address.
I’m only looking at the argument itself, not its content, because regardless what the case is, trans people should enjoy the same liberties and respect that any other human being does. If it is shown that trans people are in fact more likely to commit gun violence then the causes for that should be explored, but it wouldn’t mean that therefore trans people should be persecuted. It’s pretty obvious the ease of access to guns, the lack of social safety nets, access to mental health care, massive income inequality, and other factors play a much more significant role.
i think fighting their firehose of bullshit is a waste of time, and that’s why the firehose of bullshit is so effective.
anyone with a fraction of sense won’t fall for that, and it makes people waste time and energy fighting trolls.
I’m cis, so besides solidarity, i have no skin on that specific issue, but the same techniques are used on communities I belong to. like “they are eating the cats, they are eating the dogs
…”, it’s useless to waste energy on those claims, and “debating” them gives them attention and from the media point of view, it turns into a two sided debate.
I rather focus on building communities and solidarity to fix this nation without the consent or participation of those bigots.
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do you expect people who are immune to logic up understand statistics?
Well, the original post seems to think so. It’s important either way to make sure that the stats used actually support the underlying conclusion. Magas want to show correlation between trans and gun violence, so if there is in fact a higher prevalence of shooters among the trans group, which this post does not address.
I’m only looking at the argument itself, not its content, because regardless what the case is, trans people should enjoy the same liberties and respect that any other human being does. If it is shown that trans people are in fact more likely to commit gun violence then the causes for that should be explored, but it wouldn’t mean that therefore trans people should be persecuted. It’s pretty obvious the ease of access to guns, the lack of social safety nets, access to mental health care, massive income inequality, and other factors play a much more significant role.
i think fighting their firehose of bullshit is a waste of time, and that’s why the firehose of bullshit is so effective.
anyone with a fraction of sense won’t fall for that, and it makes people waste time and energy fighting trolls.
I’m cis, so besides solidarity, i have no skin on that specific issue, but the same techniques are used on communities I belong to. like “they are eating the cats, they are eating the dogs …”, it’s useless to waste energy on those claims, and “debating” them gives them attention and from the media point of view, it turns into a two sided debate.
I rather focus on building communities and solidarity to fix this nation without the consent or participation of those bigots.