• PugJesus@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    How does that translate to “we don’t really have a democracy”?

    If people didn’t want Trump, they could very easily vote for anyone but him.

    But a lot of people want Trump. That’s the sad fucking fact of it. Which means that the best option is to coalesce around a single candidate in opposition who has the best chance of beating him - which most who aren’t Trump bootlickers have agreed, however reluctantly, is Biden.

    We have a democracy. It’s just that half the people in it crave fascism, and the rest of us are trying to unite with whoever the fuck we can to stop it.

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      10 months ago

      Our democracy has a lot of very undemocratic things about it that put us in this situation: FPTP, the electoral college, the Reapportionment Act of 1929, and a ton of state policies.

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        10 months ago

        While all of that is true, the fundamental problem being brought up is a democratic one - a near-majority of people want a shithead, so the only strategic thing to do, in a democratic election, is try to unite an actual majority around a non-shithead.

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          10 months ago

          As Republicans have proven twice: you don’t need a majority to win the presidency.

          This isn’t to say people shouldn’t vote for Biden, just that it might still end badly.

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            10 months ago

            I mean, that’s true too, but I don’t think our chances of winning the presidency with a minority or non-plurality of the vote are good. Non-fascists don’t dominate the empty land that votes in our fucking system.

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      10 months ago

      Guess the Dem party needs to work harder on actually giving voters something to vote for rather than something to vote against or they’ll lose. Voters won’t switch to vote Trump, they’ll just stay home.

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        10 months ago

        “I don’t like the boring old guy, therefore, welcome, fascism!”

        Thanks, me and all the other people to be herded into the concentration camps thank you for your stunning dedication to democracy.

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        10 months ago

        This says more about the character of the voter than it does about the Democratic Party’s poor choice in candidates.

        If you choose to not fight fascism because the alternative isn’t perfection, you’ve made a very foolish choice.