• zero_iq@lemm.ee
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    Funny how you say it’s not a problem, then go on to describe the problem that needs to be dealt with. Dealing with scaling is a problem, and it’s a problem that costs money.

    Posts like this: https://lemm.ee/post/58472 suggest it is a problem. The rise in traffic seen by Lemmy in the last few days is absolutely tiny compared to a site like reddit, and already instances are struggling to cope. The recent growth in user registrations represents only about 0.007% of reddit’s active user base. (~60K new Lemmy users vs 861,000,000 active monthly reddit users). A site like reddit costs millions to run.

    There are 190+ Lemmy instances last time I checked, yet almost all the brunt of this load has been borne by a handful of servers, which see an inordinate amount of traffic while 100+ other servers sit around idle. Why should a handful of “lucky” servers have to pay all the hosting costs? What if a volunteer-run instance explodes to reddit-like levels of popularity? It will simply fold, unless the volunteer has serious money to throw at the problem.

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      Lemmy in the last few days is absolutely tiny compared to a site like reddit, and already instances are struggling to cope.

      While this is true, 5 days ago lemmy.ml, the biggest instance, was on a 67 EUR server which is very small. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36270094

      Posts like this: https://lemm.ee/post/58472 suggest it is a problem

      This is a scaling problem (having more users means you need more mods) but I disagree with how they handled it and it isn’t a money related thing. My thoughts on this are in an older post when this was first announced https://partizle.com/comment/64178

      Why should a handful of “lucky” servers have to pay all the hosting costs?

      My initial idea is to use the something awful model of paying a one time fee to register an acount. The problem is that people would just sign up on another instance that doesn’t charge a fee but still add load to the lucky instance. Another approach could be to participate in communities on one of those lucky servers then you need to pay a one time fee to that server (comments would need to be removed by a bot if they’re not made by an approved user). I’m not saying that’s perfect, but it’s an idea. Adsense is another idea.

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        Again, you say it’s not a money problem… then go on to describe a money problem! 🤦‍♂️

        Also, did you read the link included in the post I linked to? ( https://beehaw.org/post/520044?scrollToComments=true )

        That’s a money problem and a time problem. (And time problems are money problems.)

        High traffic sites need lots of money and resources to run. That’s just a fact.

        We can solve this in many ways as Lemmy grows (and I think we will), but to just pretend there aren’t any problems to be solved is naive, IMO.

        If Lemmy grows to any significant percentage of reddit traffic, the Lemmy of tomorrow will (necessarily) look quite different to the Lemmy of today.