- cross-posted to:
- politicus@kbin.social
- cross-posted to:
- politicus@kbin.social
District Judge Lewis Kaplan has said it multiple times: Donald Trump raped E. Jean Carroll in 1996. Kaplan wrote it in May 2023, when he presided over one of the trials against Trump. And he reminded jurors of the rape this week, during the latest proceedings in the multi-layered, winding rape and defamation cases brought against Trump by Carroll.
That fact is not fun nor is it relevant.
Not fun, sure, but how is the legal definition of “rape” of a prominent jurisdiction not relevant - especially in a discussion about how Federal laws says rape is any penetration of the vagina, but the New York state definition require a penis - just like UK law?!
NY law is closer to UK law than US federal law. That’s the subtext of what I said. You have just jumped on a bandwagon here, and haven’t contributed anything of any significance.
Booooo to you.
I’m trying to highlight shit that is wrong in the world. You’re just trying to say I’m wrong because I’m talking about things that are wrong.
This comment, aside from the wild assumptions and self pity, is much more relevant than the first. Go with the subject matter here as your first statement next time. Your original comment was too much “sub” and not enough “text”.
Mate I’ve had faaaaar too much rum tonight to avoid self pity. But yeah, imma sub some shit with my text.
If your comment here was about atrocities happening in Palestine the reaction would have been the same. Yes, it’s wrong, but it’s off topic.
How is it off topic to highlight that NY isn’t alone in its legal definition of rape?
You’re getting shit on for raising a perfectly valid point regarding how our society views the subject of this post.
People don’t want to be shown the hypocrisy of their positions though so like we see time after time when people want to talk about gun control after a mass shooting, ‘now is not the time or place’ to address these issues and politicize this awful tragedy.
All forms of sexual assault should be taken seriously. The imbalance in the laws is an injustice to all victims.
Exactly. We can’t address these nuanced issues without actually discussing them openly.
IMO, US federal law is right - rape doesn’t need to involve a penis to be rape. NY and UK law are wrong, as they imply a woman cannot rape a man, or that a woman cannot rape another woman, or that a man isn’t raping a woman when he doesn’t use his penis.
I think rape should be seen as any sort of involuntary sexual penetration, with any thing. Rape is a form of sexual assault, but sexual assault also includes lesser offenses such as flashing.
Convicting a rapist for what could be viewed as a lesser offense isn’t really sufficient.