• Alaknár@sopuli.xyz
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    8 months ago

    “Come on, guys, sacrificing some people in our society so we can have rich people is better than sacrificing alot of people in our society so we can have filthy stinking rich people!”

    You got it backwards.

    It’s: “come on, guys, people are afraid of big sweeping changes, so - since filthy stinking rich people control the narrative - it’s better to make changes where some people will be sacrificed for the rich, than sacrificing all people for the rich”.

    And your reply is the perfect example of a leftists who values purity over harm reduction.

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      8 months ago

      You’re NOT reducing harm, you’re steadily increasing harm when most of our problems could be easily solved by ending harm.

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          You’re acting like Barn Raising is new or radical. Ya didn’t use to need to go into a lifetime of debt so bankers could live in luxury, the whole village would pitch in, get together and build a house for you.

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          People in power won’t get behind anything new or radical

          Improved. But yeah, the privileged constantly endeavor to violently maintain their privilege.

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        8 months ago

        OK, please elaborate on how having some but not all people get out of the shit-hole is not reducing harm. Oh, wait, it’s not even “not reducing harm”, it’s “steadily increasing harm”!

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      people are afraid of big sweeping changes

      Who? Who are these people?

      I’m pretty sure you just mean rich people are afraid of any progress - especially because progress is a direct threat to their privilege.

      No normal person is afraid of getting their basic human needs. I think the complete opposite is the case. People are afraid of the extreme deprivation which is a foundation for capitalism.

      harm reduction

      You keep using this term without any evidence of it existing.

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        Who? Who are these people?

        Around 90% of the population of this planet.

        I’m pretty sure you just mean rich people are afraid of any progress

        No.

        No normal person is afraid of getting their basic human needs

        That’s false - a lot of people think that them getting their basic human needs would collapse something and cause irreparable damage. It’s bullshit, of course, but people - in general - are just by default afraid of change.

        People are afraid of the extreme deprivation which is a foundation for capitalism

        That’s absolutely false. I mean, come on, look around. If that were true, we wouldn’t have a resurgence of right-wing, liberal capitalism parties all across the board, and the US wouldn’t be what it is!

        You keep using this term without any evidence of it existing.

        I’m sorry, I don’t understand what you mean. Could you elaborate?