• HaveAnotherTacoPDX@lemmy.today
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    This plan didn’t work with Trump in 2016. Republicans rammed him in where he wasn’t (shouldn’t have been) welcome because they refused to allow any other candidate. In the same election, Democrats let their party officials to ram Hillary through because the party wouldn’t accept Bernie.

    Suggest we find someone WE like and do what Republicans did. It doesn’t matter if it’s an “outsider” or not, but I’d appreciate it if we could not pick a child rapist and sex trafficker, kthx!

    I genuinely think our candidate hasn’t really made themselves known to be willing to run yet. I don’t think it’s AOC this time, though I think she’s got what it takes to do the job. I don’t think it’s Harris, people still feel burned by 2020. I hope we can do better than Newsom.

    Kinda still want to draft Jon Stewart because he genuinely gives a fuck, can communicate like few others, knows how to be damned serious when he needs to be, and if he were on that list today he’d be near the top if not at it, just like that. And when asked, he didn’t say no. We could do far worse and still be okay.

    But yeah, I’m waiting to see what happens. I don’t think the candidate I want that I’m sure will win is on the field yet. But I hope AOC is the running mate, whoever that person winds up being.

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      Jon Stewart admitted he was in the Epstien Files. He was mentioned by Epstein as the type of person they needed to “properly present” one of their stories/ lies.

      He didn’t have to admit anything. He just wants to be as honest and transparent with people as he can be.

      Some of his recent interviews have given me the tiniest shred of hope that he may run. He isn’t flatly shutting down the idea any more. He isn’t saying he will run, but he used to be vehemently against the idea.

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        It’s depressing that a fucking comedian is legitimately one of the better options for a presidential candidate.

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          Yeah, maybe they should find someone more qualified like a banker or a lawyer.

          On the other hand, a comedian has been thwarting one of the richest, most powerful men in the world for the last 4 years.

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          As opposed to the usual economic parasite from the owner class?

          The things a person does for a living or a hobby do not make someone more or less fit for an elected position. Their character, intelligence, and ideals do. Jon Stewart has all of those qualities.

          There is only one name on the above list that shouldn’t be repeatedly kicked in the face and barred from any position of authority, and that’s AOC. Everyone else is corrupt as hell.

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            I wasn’t shitting on him or saying he wasn’t qualified. Just saying it’s sad that none of the actual civil servants who have presumably dedicated their lives to it are good candidates. The guy who’s primary goal has been to entertain people for most of his life just fucking fell into it and is better than all of them. It’s depressing.

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      The reason republicnas in 2016 were able to get trump is partly because the primary field was so saturated with milquetost candidates. The party apparatus was kind of behind Jeb Bush, but Jeb cluld not stand up against the abuse Trump threw at hime and the others. This was the good times, before trump actually won, but was totally abusing these generic polititians. Its really where the cult around him started.

      For the dems though, it really was just Bernie vs Hillary. The party machine coalesced around her years before the primaries even began, and despite what we think about her she was more capable than Jeb Bush. Bernie dis not undress her like Trump did to Jeb, but rank and file Dem voters were different at that time. Still fear driven. Still full of “its time for a woman!” Energy. Not that there is anything wrong with a female president, but that identity was about as deep as it got for some people.

      In many ways, the dem party rank and file is more united now than it was in 2016. We couldnt have rammed Bernie through (believe me we tried) because there were enough people who truely wanted Hillary, or were too afraid to “risk it” on Bernie.