They’re not actually relinquishing any control. They’re just allowing subsidiary “app stores” to take a tiny cut while Apple still controls everything.

I’ve been an Apple fanboy for years, but less so these days. I can’t imagine that the EU won’t fine them for this, although it’s hard to imagine any fine that would make an impression on a $3 trillion company.

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    I’ve been an Apple fanboy for years, too, and I still am. The alternatives aren’t exactly better. And anyone who is surprised that Apple is dragging its heels and trying to do the bare minimum to comply, well, get back to me when you’re no longer twelve. Companies aren’t your friends, even when they look like they are. Hell, Google’s sudden about-face regarding Right to Repair is 100% intended to fuck over Apple. It’s not about the consumer, it’s about the money. Always, with every company, every time.

    Developers want alternate app stores because they want to make/keep more money. There’s no other reason. Every other reason given just comes back to more money. Is that a more valid argument simply because they’re smaller?

    I’m in favor of Apple opening up iOS to alternate stores. I think it’s going to be a privacy and security nightmare, but the horse is pretty much already out of the barn and the barn is burning, so… whatever. But I’m not so naive to think Apple’s going to fully embrace the ideal concept of alternate stores unless somehow it’s a way to beat Google’s or Samsung’s face in, and take their money.

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      There are also app stores like F-Droid for Android to install Open Source apps, those are not in for the money, but for freedom, to make something nice for all

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      I find really disingenuous to talk about how sideloading would be a security nightmare when IOS had serious exploits that weren’t addressed for years.

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      How is it going to be a privacy and security nightmare to be able to install what I want on hardware I own? If you don’t want to take a risk and install things from other app stores or side load you don’t have to.

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      To the replies in the other threads, they never see fanboys defending Apple, especially not on Lemmy: see? Whataboutism and “sideloading is automatic security and privacy (?!) nightmare” kool-aid.

      More direct reply: no, alternative app stores don’t imply less security. They could be more secure even. And sure it’s all about money for Apple (and other companies = irrelevant here) but that doesn’t void criticism.

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        Have you ever submitted an App to the App Store? They have much higher standards on ownership, transparency, not being scammy, and they run some decent scans before the upload is allowed. I’m not claiming they’re perfect in protecting their customers but they set a higher bar than anyone else.

        While other stores could meet that standard, that would be naive to expect, given current stores

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          They have much higher standards

          Than who? Android play store? Definitely. Decades old established package managers like Debian’s apt? Not so much.

          Or do you mean the potential third party tool for iOS that doesn’t even exist and now is much less likely to be good because of Apple being a douche about it?

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      Literally no one thinks Apple will just roll over and start playing nice. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t criticize and call them out for the blatant shit they keep doing.

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      You were doing great, until the last paragraph. Too bad.